Thread: Advise for a hardgainer

First: start giving us your stats, please.

Second: write your 3 previous cycles, and the plan for the 4th as well. (length, dosage, ecc... and brand used )

3: diet, not only the kcal TOT but what, when, macro, ...

After that you will have more precise and targeted responses

Originally Posted by Phill

First: start giving us your stats, please.

Second: write your 3 previous cycles, and the plan for the 4th as well. (length, dosage, ecc... and brand used )

3: diet, not only the kcal TOT but what, when, macro, ...

After that you will have more precise and targeted responses

Second what Phill said. That and your goals this time.

Not flaming, but if what you said were true, you seem to have hyperthyroidism or some thyroid problem that seems to be able to adjust up and down. You seem to have a terrible doctor, change the doctor. Your GP should serve YOUR needs, not theirs. Most of us here are not health professional.

Lastly, pictures pictures pictures. Again, not flaming but to quote Sagan, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

I understand what your saying, thanks for your replies guys, finally some good answers I will give you an good answer this weekend including ALL details, food schedule, cycles et cetera. Only thing I cant do is photo's since im covered in tattoo's and i have my own company for over 10 years now and I would lose a lot of customers but other then that I will get into detail this weekend. Thanks for your answers so far and I will look up "hyperthyroidism", never heard of it. My doctor neither ever mentioned it

What a fool idiot doctor.

Check your T3, T4 and TSH level.

Thanks Phill, I will ask for that

I asked for a private (dont know the right English prenouncement) blood examination but the idiots charge almost 1000 euro's for that... thats why I never did it lol. Anyways some more information (cant write it all now, will write more later by editing this post:

Food schedule:

meal 1 (shake)
500 ml milk
100 ml whip cream
100 gr Brinta (wheat flour?)
30 gr whey
1 banana

Meal 2
6 slices of brown bread
75 gr of chicken meat

Meal 3
100 gr rice
200 gr vegetables
3 tablespoons of olive oil (good, expensive ones)

Meal 4
3 slices of brown bread
60 gr peanut butter
1 liter of chocolate milk

Meal 5
500 gr kwark (cottage cheese?)
1 banana
100 gr unsalted nuts (Cashew)

Meal 6
Red meat (beefsteak for example)
Green vegetables (2-3 hands full)
Potatoes (3 or 4)

Meal 7
500 ml milk
150 gr Brinta (wheat flour?)
Cinnamon + sugar (little bit)

Extra (shake)
500 ml milk
30 gr whey
1 tablespoon olive oil

Training schedule:

Monday upper body 5x5 heavy AF
Tuesday lower boddy max rep heavy AF
Wednesday off
Thursday upper body 3x12 lower weight more reps
Friday lower body lower weight more reps
Saturday off
Sunday off

Cycle:
400 Test E /week
600 Tren E /week
600 Bold /week
Kickstart Anadrol 100mg/

side note... My gear sucked, always heavilly underdosed so yeah, what I injected aint that much... 600 TREN might as well been 150 tren (literally) cause there wasnt any better place to go untill I found MT

Sleep:
22:30 ~ 06:15

Work:
PHP Engineer, so I work sitting on my ass the whole day ^^ not intense lol

Stats:
32 years old now
1.85 length
79kg
BF around 15%

Some people might laugh about my weight but yeah... as I said... I am dedicated, I am serious, and I work my ass off but no matter how much I eat, I wont gain weight.

Anyways, thats my last schedule and so on, I once did a schedule where I ate more close to 8k a day, As said... my weight just stays the same, and yeah my muscle do grow but not as much as you guys (when I see photo's) and that is really frustrating cause i mean... I give it all I have, I train hard and I mean really hard, giving it all I have every single time, and I eat as much as I can untill I explode, and then I eat some more which most of the times results in me going to bed feeling sick due to the fact that I force feeded myself lol :P

Anyways, thanks for your answers so far guys... ill add more data when I have time and remember important stuff. Hope this helps a little bit

I left a (large) reply this weekend and it said a moderator had to review it before it would become visible but I still dont see anything, hope it will show up soon otherwise I have to rewrite everything again haha

At first sight there are few proteins.

Since you say you are eating 8k kcal, can you send macronutrient partitioning and calorie counting?
It would be better for every meal, but only the general one could be fine

Originally Posted by KellerM

Do you think it's possible to gain while on keto? 75% fat, 20% protein, 5% carbs?

yes it is. proteins and hormones grow muscles, fats or carbs are for energy