Post progress pics if you have. Thanks.
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Post progress pics if you have. Thanks.
Ok guys.
This is not the best pic just taken with my mobile phone. trust me I look better in real life. does not help I am fair skin to begin with and the shot from mobile will wash most of the physic out. But what the pic does show is you can see how thick the muscle is and the bulk of the muscle.
I plan to by a new camera next month as my old one has for some reason not working.
Like I said plan is to now take test 400 2ml/wk EQ 500 1ml/wk along with low dose of hgh 2iu/ed for general health and help support cycle.
My diet has not been that get as I think the Tren e has effected my appetite so I am hoping dropping it will make me feel better.
Work has been busy and long as I work 12hr shifts we do around 2/3 days on with 2/3 days off plus got a young family now that takes a lot of my free time.
So the best plan i have come up with is to only train on my off days and do cardio on my work days.
i just find training on work days is too much and really non productitve training before work is dangerous as getting out of bed and training at 5am no food in my gut plus rushing the workout so i can get out the door for work by 615am just not going to be worth it.
After a long 12 hour shift i just find it real hard to go hard in the gym after that i mean all i want to do after a shift is come home greet the family have a good meal rest a bit then hit the sack. So training is best left for off shifts. Cardio on the other hand is no dramas to do 30-40mins before work. So that is the plan for the next 6 weeks.
Diet wise was thinking lower carb diet on work days and bring the carbs up on training days.
Like to here what you guys think?
BTW will post some better pic is 4/6 weeks.
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Wow. Looking well. Would love to know your sets n reps atm. Chest is looking solid bro.
because of work I just do an upper/lower body split.Quote:
Originally Posted by getnripd
I generally just do 3sets of 8-12 once I have warmed up. Say on chest I am doing inclines I will do some dynamic work with the bar using light weight then 3 sets of warm ups say 60kg 70kg 80kg 90kg x 3-5reps then put working weight on 100kg and do 3 sets with this for 8-12.
I will only do one exercise for each part. But I rotate extra work like this.
upper body with chest focus
lower body with quad focus
upper body with back focus
lower body with hammy focus
on the focus part days I will do more exercises for that part that day.
with delts and arms being on upper body days because they come after back or chest I really only need to pump them up so I will do super sets or giant set for those parts and pick only one exercise and do 3-5 sets resting about 90sec after each super set or giant set.
so the basic works out look like this
upper body
chest 3 x 8-12
back width 3 x 8-12
back thickness 3 x 8-12
giant or super set shoulders 3-5 sets 10-15
arms super sets 3-5 sets 10-15
lower body
quad 3x 10-15
hams 3x 8-20
calf 3x 10-30
abs 3x 25
btw I will also be including what every focus part I am doing that day as well.
plus I warm up a lot on my first exercise of the day and as work progress warm ups are reduced or eliminated.
so I do not get unbalanced I will start one workout with back before chest and change that the next workout. same with legs I will do quads first one day then start with hams the next.
so far it is working.
I am planning on getting my home gym back up and running again soon I sold most of my stuff off awhile ago. I have a good 6x6 shed area that I will fit out again and as I get more into competitive training it will come in handy as I can workout when I like. atm all I have left is a power tec multi bench and small cable x machine. Got to get a good power rack and a couple of select machine. I plan on spending about 20k. not all at once but over time. I think this is the best way. I mean I do not know if it is because I am and old fart now but I just get sick of training in local gyms.
For one you see a lot of knobs in there and with all my years of training plus knowledge over the years I see a lot of fucken stupid stuff that gives me the shits. I know what I do works as I have proven in through my competitive years as a bb and have over 13 titles to back it up. It just shits you when you see some young guy talking shit and looks like shit or you get the guy who has some muscle on him and is on the gas and thinks he is Mr Universe. I am really over it all. You know the guy I mean has a great big back but no chest or good upper body with no legs or the guy with big arms and delts with not much else but thinks he is huge.
Most of these guys have never seen a real good physic and the guys that do look half decent have their heads so far up their arse that the are just cock heads. Gyms also don't like bb in their gyms. I have always tried to give bb a good name but I guess they are few and far between.
I like the guys on here at least here you can find the help and encouragement you need and no one has an ego. That said an ego is good other wise we would not train hard and better aim to be better then the average guy but as the Great Lee Haney said an ego is great as long as it is a healthy ego.
Well guys,
hgh has arrived so will be back into it after a 12 day break. This should not effect results too much. Anyway at this stage only want it for better health hence the 2iu dose. Although as I get closer to my show date I will increase it naturally.
So plan is next 6 weeks all MTS products
500mg EQ
800mg of test 400
2iu/ed hgh
training on days off work and do early morning cardio on work days it would look like this
day 1 upper body
day 2 lower body
day 3 morning cardio
day 4 morning cardio
repeat
like I said been slack on diet so this is an area I really want to improve on and can. It is not that I am eating crap it is some days I miss meals or just don't eat at all. I put it down to the Tren e I was using. I just did not feel good on it my moods too up and down. results ok with it but I think it may have been under dosed. I have used good tren in the past and I know what it should do and this product feel a bit short. So I hope the above change works out well.
Oh and just note on record the TREN E was not MTS it was MAX PRO. Guess Mr Big was right. Anyway I got so MT200 on hand and will get stuck into it very soon.
Thanks for all the information ironmaster. Really interesting. I like the idea of upper/lower split. Going to give it a try. Thanks for taking the time out to respond so thoroughly.
This is a pretty low amount of gear for a national level bodybuilder. You plan to increase or you will change it up? 500mg EQ is low IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironmaster
Agreed on EQ dose, I have only ran it once at 1g per week for 14 weeks but even that felt mild, next run I will try 1.5g.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR BIG
When is your show date? And what compounds are you planning to run from say 12 weeks out to comp day?
Yes I agree. Been on 500mg EQ 6 weeks now. plan to take it too 1000mg next 2 weeks. I have never ran EQ more then 400mg in the past for 12 weeks and results had been ok. More fullness and vascular. Although not much more in the way of new muscular growth. At 500mg I am seeing similar results and this is going to be a long cycle of EQ 20 weeks. So like Big D has said the jump from 500 - 1000mg was the sweet spot. So I will take it their soon and compare the results verses 500mg.
I plan on a show when I feel I am in the best frame of mind. We got shows in FEB MAY or OCT next year all national shows. Like I said I have not competed since 2006 but I always thought I could have been better and never really took much gear. I think because of my natural shape and structure I could always do well.
I plan to cycle like I have always for past shows and that is uses fast esters 6-10 weeks out with a good oral. Just at a much more effective dose.
But for now just building the base on test and EQ
I plan on doing a 20 week blast before a cruise. I am 6 weeks in so I got 14 weeks to go.
As I want to build my base with EQ/test would you suggest maybe making the following adjustments
current
MTS test 400 @ 800mg/wk
MTS EQ 500 @ 500mg/wk
So I was going to take EQ to 1000mg/wk and test 400 to 1200mg/wk
I have never ran test more then 750mg/wk but I have always heard the more test you run the more leaner you get?
Just worried that my estrogen will blow out @ 1200mg or is this just a myth?
BTW I do have some liquid Aromasin 25mg/ml so do you suggest to run it if I take my test up to the 1200mg mark? Would taking it EOD be ok? I hear some guys suggest that as little as E3D is still effectitve.
Your thoughts?
Up Date 13 SEP
I have been getting some solid results from MTS and 8 weeks in
Couple months in 97kg and bf is dropping nicely I guess my was 92kg and fat when I started but slowly turning that around. Goal is to keep improving bf levels and get back to my normal range of 10% off season. Arms at just under 18inches my best was just under 19inches so getting their.
currently doing
test 400 3ml/wk total 1200mg
EQ max 2ml/wk total 1000mg
MTS hgh 2iu/ed
Aromison 12.5mg/ed
plan to run this for another 8-10 weeks
will post more photos soon.
Week 9
running
test 400 3ml/wk total 1200mg
EQ max 2ml/wk total 1000mg
into my second week at these doses.
did not worry about adding in Aromasin as I feel no need for an AI at this point.
Been running MTS hgh at an average of 2iu/ed past 13 weeks and getting good health benefits and at 41 years old every bit helps. Although I am going to up the the dose and see what happens.
As of this week I will do 4iu/ed 5on 2off I will let you guys know how I go with that.
diet is getting better still not were I want it to be due to work schedule but I will just have to get back to pre packing my meals and manage this better. It is a work in progress.
planned eating schedule
meal 1
1/2 cup oat meal
7 egg white omelet
1 scoop of whey
meal 2
tuna
potato
meal 3
chicken breast
rice
meal 4
tuna
potato
meal 5
chicken
rice
meal 6
casein powder
Well guys 12 weeks in and I must say been not too happy with my progress.
It is not the gear mts products are great. I just wanted too much too soon. Fact is I was too fat when I got back on cycle.
I mean I had lost all my gains after 14 months of no training and eating like an average Joe.
12 weeks ago I was around 25% bf 92kg now I had a dexa scan and now 12 weeks later 98kg with 24%bf so yes the cycle worked and I look leaner as a result of add mucle back but the fat has remained. It is mostly around the stomach.
Just to bring you up to speed my cycle averaged out to
test @ 1000mg/wk
EQ @ 750mg/wk
so I gained about 4kg of muscle without any gain or loss of bf
What to do now?
Well on Mr Big's advise the goal now is to bring fat down to 10% this is what I will do
Tren a
t3
cardio
carb cycling
low dose of test
I totally agree with this although I would like to forgo the test altogether so plan is to use mts 200 as the mast in this product will be my replacement for the test
cycle
mts 200 @ 1ml eod
as I progress would like to add some mts shred to this to kick it up some more and may add some tbol/var tabs as well.
I will just finish out this week on what I am doing now and start new protocol on Monday.
Looking back this is what I should of done but I was too eager to put my size back on and just ended up a bigger physic with the same amount of fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironmaster
So not all lost as I did gain most of my muscle back about half of it.
I am still 10kg of lean muscle from my best.
at my best in the off season I was 89kg with 6%bf and at my biggest 97kg @13%bf so I am aimmimg to get back to that.
As for now I will no longer post in this thread.
I will post progress in a new thread under cycles with the advise from MR BIG.
Just before I sign off I want to make it clear MTS products work as you can not complain with a 4-5kg gain of muscle in 12 weeks with no extra fat gain. this was also achived with an average diet. So just goes to show how good this stuff is.