Quote Originally Posted by ironmaster View Post
well 2 weeks with no gear and all is still good.
bloat has gone way down and have come in heaps around the waist (diet program is doing what it should)

still on the medtropin 2iued my oils should arrive this week so plan to get back on next week.

I will be taking Mr Big advice and run a low dose of test and high tren. although I feel 700mg/w of tren would be way too high at this stage. the most tren I have every ran in the past was 300mg/w and have used tren a in a cycle about 4 times so I do have some experience with this stuff.

I was thinking of running the following
MT200 0.5ml/ed
test 400 0.5ml/w

just run until I have some shape back or until I get sick of pinning ed but in fact hoping to do it for 8 weeks. Then switch to

test 400 0.5ml/w
EQ 500 1ml/w
Tbol/var mix 1 tab ed will only run orals for 6 weeks

after all that I should be back to a good level of performance and from hear just up the test and start building some more mass

plan on using EQ fulltime I let it do its job over time

so just running EQ and a good amount of test should be good for off season and then once I have a set date for a show I will just add tren to the mix about 16 weeks out and then when 10 weeks out I will just use all quick acting gear like orals and change my long acting test for test p


like I said going to be a big year for me in 2016. I am planning on going all the way and hope to not only compete at a national level but also qualify for an international event. With all my years of training plus I do have the genetics for it I feel at an international masters show I could do very well.
hoping for say NABBA masters Worlds or Universe

ironmaster
Looking back this is what I should of done but I was too eager to put my size back on and just ended up a bigger physic with the same amount of fat.

So not all lost as I did gain most of my muscle back about half of it.

I am still 10kg of lean muscle from my best.

at my best in the off season I was 89kg with 6%bf and at my biggest 97kg @13%bf so I am aimmimg to get back to that.

As for now I will no longer post in this thread.

I will post progress in a new thread under cycles with the advise from MR BIG.

Just before I sign off I want to make it clear MTS products work as you can not complain with a 4-5kg gain of muscle in 12 weeks with no extra fat gain. this was also achived with an average diet. So just goes to show how good this stuff is.