Thread: Need advice on 2nd cycle

Hey everyone my name's Trey. So I finished my first cycle about 2 months ago. I was using test E 500mg a week for 12 weeks and stanavar 50mg/day weeks 7-12. I'm planning on starting my next cycle in a couple of months but I'm new to this and could use some advice. I'm thinking of doing this:

Test e 500mg/week weeks 1-12
Dbol 25mg/day weeks 1-6
Stanavar or tren a weeks 7-12
Arimidex .5mg eod
And then clomid for my pct

Right now I'm

205lbs
6'
And roughly 12% body fat

When I ended this last cycle I was
230lbs and probably around the same body fat. I caught covid right when I finished my cycle and spent a week in bed not able to eat anything so I think that's got a lot to do with why I lost so much weight.

I'm trying to bulk up in the first half of my cycle and then cut up in the 2nd half

I'm unsure about the stanavar because I've heard it's not good to run oral for 12 weeks straight but I've heard bad things about tren as far as side effects. I'm not sure on the dosage of tren either so any help would that would be appreciated. Also if there's anything else I should be taking with it other than arimidex or anything else for my pct please let me know. Again I'm new to this and I would like to get some feedback before I just start putting anything in my body. If anyone has any other suggestions other than what I plan on including in this cycle I'm open to try something different. I'd much rather take a little criticism opposed to permanently damaging my health lol.

Thanks

Thanks yeah I didn't know that about PCT. My friend said he has some experience with all this stuff and he's the one who told me I HAD to do PCT. To be honest I'm more interested in blasting and cruising I just didn't know enough about it and didn't want to just experiment without having any knowledge of it.

Also if I can't get my hands on dostinex is there anything else similar I could use?

Originally Posted by MTS-Head Coach

PCT is a wast of time and destroy your health and also kill all your gains. You cant keep gains with post cycle , you can keep weight but with much more fat and less muscle .

Never do a bulking cycle and right away do cutting . You need to stay on the weight to solidify it , if not you lose it so quick

With your composition i go for a bulking and grow until i achieve the look i like

Test E 900mg week
Deca 600mg week
Bolde 600mg week
Dianabol 50mg day

*have on hand arimidex and dostinex but only use if you need it

If you can afford

HGH 5ius ED post workout

Agree with MTS-Head coach.

Also, in my opinion, excepted if you want to go deep in the shred, or have a specific goal (competition, photoshoot, ...) you don't absolutely "need" to take cutting molecules, you can do it slowly without them if your nutrition/training is on point.

But putting mass is way more complicated without juicing, so for your cycle, focus on the mass

Alright so I took the advice and went and ordered everything it just came in yesterday. I'm pretty fuckin excited haha. So one last question...how long should I run this. I know with dianabol you really shouldn't go past 6-8 weeks and with test you start getting the full effects between weeks 8-12 but as far as the deca and bolde I've done some research and I'm seeing people say 12-16 weeks and others are saying up to 26 weeks with deca because its slow acting. What would you recommend? Stop once I see the results I'm looking for or keep going until the deca and bolde reaches its peak?

It’s totally different person to person what is the goal to gain maximum muscle mass over a long period of time or just gain some muscles and have a break

If long term I think longer blasts as your needing too gain the muscle which doesn’t come in in a few weeks you’ll gain in a few weeks but to get to a certain level it will take longer

Originally Posted by Treybear

Alright so I took the advice and went and ordered everything it just came in yesterday. I'm pretty fuckin excited haha. So one last question...how long should I run this. I know with dianabol you really shouldn't go past 6-8 weeks and with test you start getting the full effects between weeks 8-12 but as far as the deca and bolde I've done some research and I'm seeing people say 12-16 weeks and others are saying up to 26 weeks with deca because its slow acting. What would you recommend? Stop once I see the results I'm looking for or keep going until the deca and bolde reaches its peak?

Half life and bio availability of Boldenone is longer than deca.
Just keep it simple, if it's your second cycle:
Test E: week 1 to 14 (then go on trt, you can tapering down dosage from week 12)
Deca: week 1 to 12
Boldenone: week 1 to 14; with a front load on week 1 and 2
Dbol: week 1 to 6 (can go up to week 8, it will only depends on your blood work, if too harsh for you on liver it can only go up to week 4, it will depends).

Combo test + deca + dbol = aromatisation so careful to your Estrogen level.
But for this as well, you need bloood work often to determinate.
If you takes too much E2 blockers, you will crash your estrogen, and you will make no gains (you need a good balance Test/E2 for proper results).