Yea i know its to high, thats why i said i was gonna cut or prime for the cycle as i like to call it. I want to stay away from dnp and other fat burning drugs, if you cant lose fat without it, THATS when you need to find another sport i think loosing bodyfat is the easiet thing in bodybuilding (when you are as fat as me) so this will be no issue. My last question was not about what to do for cutting, but for the bulk. Also how do you guys like to train when bulking? Im gonna try HIT dorian yates style. I have probably tried most training methods, i enjoy trying new stuff and love to here peopels experice