Primo at $120/vial and climbing, adjusting your stack because of the raw ban?

Switched over to EQ for my last blast when primo hit silly prices. Not identical obviously but running 600mg/wk with 500 test I kept lean, strength went up and sides were manageable. You do need to dial your AI in from the start though - E2 behaves differently on EQ than a straight test run. Worth checking hematocrit at 8 weeks too if you haven't donated recently. Not a perfect swap but close enough when primo is sitting at those prices.

Stock is secured for now but I won't pretend the situation is resolved. Everyone in the industry is working from existing inventory at this point. If you find primo at a price that still makes sense, stock up. I can't give you a timeline on when this eases.

EQ is where I landed after primo became a joke price-wise. Not the same compound obviously but the lean dry gains without the water, decent strength increase, and it stacks well with test without adding complexity. Main downside is the hematocrit - I donate every 8 weeks and that keeps it in check. If you can manage bloods it's a solid budget swap for a long blast where you wanted primo for the same lean mass effect.

Switched most of my offseason volume from primo to EQ at 500mg after my last vial ran out. Not the same compound obviously but EQ at that price point is actually worth running when primo at 120+ a vial is getting hard to justify for anything other than prep. The hunger gets annoying but the vascularity and the slow steady strength gains are real. Hematocrit crept up on me at week 8 so I donate every 8 weeks now, factor that in if you go that route. Still got a few primo vials on the shelf for peak week. Hard to let go of it completely but cant justify it as a bulk staple anymore.

switched to EQ after primo went past 110 a vial. yeah the look is different but at that price gap it's hard to justify keeping primo in an off-season stack. at 600mg the hunger spike is the main thing to deal with, diet has to be locked in or it gets away from you. committing to 20 weeks minimum or you're wasting your time with EQ - that's the part most guys don't account for. when the china situation settles I'll revisit primo for prep but right now EQ just makes more sense financially.

The supply situation is real and not likely to shift quickly. EQ is genuinely worth looking at as a practical alternative given where primo pricing has gone - different compound but the lean quality gains and vascular effect are there at a fraction of the cost right now.

Anyone else stocking up while it's still available? I grabbed extra in January when prices were starting to move and looking smart for it now. Not seeing this getting cheaper in the next 6 months minimum given the supply situation. EQ is the standard swap people bring up but at the end of the day it's not really doing the same job. Sure the look is similar but the hematocrit management on EQ is a whole extra problem to deal with. Different trade-offs.

Yeah the raw situation is real. Primo and mast-E have been the hardest hit. We have stock secured for now but it's not a situation I'd call stable long term - if you're planning a run that relies on either of those, sooner is better than later.

EQ is the obvious swap if you want that dry, vascular look without the primo price. Not identical but close enough for most off-season goals, and hematocrit management aside it's straightforward to run. 600mg/week for 20 weeks is what I'd go back to if primo dried up completely. The extra work on blood donation is annoying but manageable if you plan the donations into the cycle schedule from week one.

I would say both have similarities in terms of results, but each pro
Both provide lean gains, no water.
Primo tends to give a more “hard look” while EQ will provide a more “round muscles” look.

Yeah primo's getting brutal on price. Was paying around $85-90 a vial not that long ago, now it's pushing $120 and some places just don't have it at all. Switching to EQ makes sense if you want similar dry quality gains but they do behave differently. EQ gives you that rounder, more vascular look vs the harder, tighter look you get from primo. Main thing to watch with EQ is keeping it under 50% of your test dose or you'll tank your E2 - it has anti-estrogenic properties people underestimate. Also budget for at least 16-18 weeks minimum, the compound doesn't really start delivering until week 8-10 so short cycles are a waste of money.