Quote Originally Posted by getnripd View Post
I see, so its for more advanced users. Is this based on cost v return? Save it for when Its needed and in the early stages its not required?
it's not really about cost vs. return. you need to understand what it's purpose is and why people even take it. a fairly decent build can be reached and achieved just by steroids. then as you get advanced and you want to push the boundaries, then yeah the hgh + insulin is needed.

so no, novices should not need to use it.