Quote Originally Posted by MR BIG View Post
it's not really about cost vs. return. you need to understand what it's purpose is and why people even take it. a fairly decent build can be reached and achieved just by steroids. then as you get advanced and you want to push the boundaries, then yeah the hgh + insulin is needed.

so no, novices should not need to use it.
Thanks MR BIG. Appreciate your experience.