Critique my 16 week lean bulk before I pin, test 500 primo 400 var at the end, anything you would change?
7 posts · started by BERLINER · Jun 19, 2026
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BERLINER
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Jun 19, 2026 at 5:02 PM
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Right, planning my first proper lean bulk and want eyes on it before I pin anything. 16 weeks, test E at 500 a week split mon and thu, primo at 400 the whole way through, then anavar 50mg a day for the last 6 weeks to harden the finish. AI on hand but figured with primo in there I will barely touch it. My main worry is whether 400 primo is enough to actually feel given what it cost me with the raw ban, or whether I would be better off throwing that money at more test. Tear it apart.
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Jun 20, 2026 at 11:04 AM
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Solid stack overall. Primo at 400 is a proper working dose not a token run so thats fine, just know with the raw ban it isnt cheap right now and some would argue that money buys more test instead. On a test and primo base you wont need much AI, both of them keep estrogen in check so dont go crashing your e2 chasing a number. Var in the last 6 weeks at 40 to 60mg to harden up makes sense, just watch your lipids cause orals tank HDL, run fish oil and get a panel. Overall its a clean dry stack, I wouldnt change much.
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GODZILLA
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Jun 20, 2026 at 5:05 PM
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Looks like a well put together plan. Primo at 400 is a proper working dose so just make sure your bloods justify the spend with prices where they are right now. Run it and report back with how the var finishes it off. cheers
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Jun 20, 2026 at 7:26 PM
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As long as you run blood work, Great liver protection, lipids value in check, you can push the Anavar up to 8-10 weeks
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SydneyFit
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Jun 21, 2026 at 7:04 PM
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Solid plan, it reads like a clean lean bulk. Only thing I would tweak is the primo, 400 is on the light side for what it actually does. Bump it to 500 or 600 and run it the full 16 weeks, primo is slow and really shines from week 8 on so people who cut it short never feel it. Var at the end for a 6 to 8 week finish is perfect for hardening up. Keep some aromasin on hand even if you dont think you will need it, and pull bloods mid cycle to watch your lipids once the oral goes on top.
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Mick AU
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Jun 22, 2026 at 5:04 AM
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The stack itself is solid, test 500 with primo at 400 is a proper lean bulk not a token run, primo earns its keep at that dose holding muscle and keeping e2 in check without crashing it. Only thing id flag is the cost, with the raw ban primos sat well north of 120 a vial now so do the maths on whether that money buys you more just running a touch more test. Var in the last 6 weeks to harden up is bang on, 40 to 60mg a day, just keep an eye on your lipids because the orals tank your HDL, run fish oil through it and get a panel mid run. On a test plus primo base youll need very little AI if any so dont go in heavy with it.
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Jun 22, 2026 at 5:04 PM
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That is a clean lean bulk on paper. Test 500 primo 400 is a solid base, just keep the var to the last 6 to 8 weeks rather than the whole run, your lipids will thank you for it. Get the food dialled in and you will hold most of what you put on.