Quote Originally Posted by MR BIG View Post
I don't believe in the word natural.

Few things:

1) 1st cycle, stick to the basics -> Test, Deca, Dbol. Nothing else. The more muscle you put on the easier it is to be under 10%.
2) If you are under-developed and at 12% BF, well you should evaluate your diet and training first. Hormones won't sort out the food issues
3) Clen isn't anything magic and the results aren't amazing compared to DNP or simply just adjusting your food. Only gives a little boost but nothing visually amazing.


Don't take hormones to cut down right now. No point and a waste. Build the muscle and you'll cut down just by increasing overall muscle.
What he said. Although I've recomped on a classic tren/mast/test cut cycle. I wouldn't recommend it. Especially to a beginner. Really learn what works for you for dieting. I suggest looking into carb cycling and eating whole foods.