Clean bulk

[Newinthegame]

Hey,

I will first start with some basic info:

Training years: 6
Bw; 230 lbs
Bodyfat 7/8 %
Age; 25
Lenght: 189cm
Cycles : 6
Caloric need : 37/3800
Going for a surplus of 3/4/500 calories and adjusting for a bigger surplus by the week aslong as my bodyfat allows it.

i was planning on using the following stack
With the goal of gaining maybe a 15 lbs with no more then 2/3 % bodyfat.

Aim is high but im coming out of a 20 week cut so wil gain muscle fluid back etc.

Finishing this cut ( 300 test pp/ 300npp/300 para) in a month and then going straight into the following ;

// note : i cruised for a bit and im 2.5 weeks into the test npp para as we speak //



Plan is ;

800 test E / 1000 eq / 400 tren E / 400 mast E for 12 weeks
--------------------------------------

Reasoning behind it;


800 test E

- for libido +mass im putting it at 800

1000 EQ

- makes me extremly vasculair like a walking erection. Love it more then tren as far as look goes

400 tren E

- gives me insane strenght and want to keep it on the low side as im going a total for 18 weeks including the para

400 Mast E

- mainly for bloating + libido


I know im complicating it a bit but eq destroys my libido at low or no test and this time i want the GF to be happy as wel instead of having sex once in 10 days while on EQ

Would appreciate critique, orals except anavar are out of the question. Superdrol at 20mg for 20 days made me yellow and went to hospital.

After this cycle im going to cruise And after that a full mass bulk and then off.


Thanks

[THE COACH]

Let's see some photos buddy! 38 weeks of non stop blasting you might wanna watch out for lethargy and get some bloods done before you transition into the bulk.

[Newinthegame]

Not so fond of putting foto''s online due to privacy reasons ( work related, got tattoos)

But im not 38 weeks blasting.

1-12 blast
12-16 cruise
16-22 blast
22-26 cruise
26-36 blast
36-40 cruise
40-50 blast.
( nor exact as im not home but u get the idea)

Before this next blast ill cruise 5 weeks. Thought of that myself this morning.

[THE COACH]

Yeah that's more comforting to hear - misinterpreted your post where I thought you were gonna be blasting for 38 weeks straight. That's a pretty solid stack you've got there for a lean and dry off season and some really good stats too! Just remember not to let the surplus go out of hand and put on weight too fast. All the best man!

[Newinthegame]

Nah, im crazy but not that crazy haha.

Surplus gonna depend a bit on the weather forecast. If the summer is horrible i might want als bit more mass haha.

Think libido probs are Likely be solved this way. Or any suggestions if it does occur? Besides dropping EQ?

[THE COACH]

No point growing too quickly when the excess wait is gonna be blubber unless you want that to keep you warm, my friend.

I honestly think you have a very well thought out approach, and you're gonna be good to go. I've never worked with you and I don't know your body's response to estrogen and progesterones well, but I can say that with 800mg of Test in your stack, for most people there isn't gonna be any fear of libido issues. I'd still keep some arimidex on hand though, rather than rely entirely on Masteron for its anti-estrogenic activities. It's more of a side-effect than an actual main property of Masteron. But while you have estrogen covered, keep a look out for your progesterone/prolactin levels from Tren. Those might cause you dick problems if they go out of hand but nothing some caber can't fix. Half a tablet or 0.25mg 2x to 3x a week IF NEEDED as a start should do the trick. But with caber people tend to experience things like nausea and headaches and other uncomfortable sides so keep the usage as sparingly as possible.

[Newinthegame]

Sound's good. Got some aromasin lying her. Wil start 10mg e3d and adjust.

Thank you!

[GODZILLA]

Sound's good. Got some aromasin lying her. Wil start 10mg e3d and adjust.

Thank you!

hows it going?

[Phill]

Sound's good. Got some aromasin lying her. Wil start 10mg e3d and adjust.

Thank you!

Hey MTS staff, do you have understood!?

We want AROMASIN :rolleyes: ;)

[Phill]

Think libido probs are Likely be solved this way. Or any suggestions if it does occur? Besides dropping EQ?

Take caber!


Tren plus caber ... your girlfriend will have to "worry" every day :D

[Newinthegame]

Bit to expensive over here to Just add in without knowing if u need it ( something like 55 euro's for 8x 0.5mg)

[Newinthegame]

Going well but didn't start the blast yet.
Currently on test npp parabolan for 6 weeks and maybe going straight to the blast.

No orals atm nor no high dose atm ( 800mg total ) so 16 weeks should be easy.

Going to up the calories now to find my real maintanance and then 10th of june going to start the blast i think.

[THE COACH]

Bit to expensive over here to Just add in without knowing if u need it ( something like 55 euro's for 8x 0.5mg)

I agree. Costs aside, I don't ever recommend throwing in AIs "for the sake of it". It's really more of having a blister pack or two on standby at home, run your cycle then assess and if things go well that's ideal. But if you start getting sides then go for the lowest possible (appropriate) AI dose and if that's not enough then slowly work your way up.

[Newinthegame]

Takes me anywhere from 2 hours to 3 days to get it + i havent had a problem with tren or deca but ill keep it in mind.

Cant wait to start the blast haha. First time dosing like this so should be fun

[Newinthegame]

quick update. currently in week 6 of 800 bold // 600 tren e // 750 test400 // 500 mast e with no ai and 50mcg t3

no idea how this is possible but im up 17lbs and clearly starting losing fat in my adominal area. guess im down 0.5/1%

fun part is. diet of 5200 kcals. roughly 120 fats 700 carbs 350 protein. give or take.

[GODZILLA]

quick update. currently in week 6 of 800 bold // 600 tren e // 750 test400 // 500 mast e with no ai and 50mcg t3

no idea how this is possible but im up 17lbs and clearly starting losing fat in my adominal area. guess im down 0.5/1%

fun part is. diet of 5200 kcals. roughly 120 fats 700 carbs 350 protein. give or take.

thats the power of top quality hormones, ofcourse alongside hard training

[bigpaparn]

Hey,

I will first start with some basic info:

Training years: 6
Bw; 230 lbs
Bodyfat 7/8 %
Age; 25
Lenght: 189cm
Cycles : 6
Caloric need : 37/3800
Going for a surplus of 3/4/500 calories and adjusting for a bigger surplus by the week aslong as my bodyfat allows it.

i was planning on using the following stack
With the goal of gaining maybe a 15 lbs with no more then 2/3 % bodyfat.

Aim is high but im coming out of a 20 week cut so wil gain muscle fluid back etc.

Finishing this cut ( 300 test pp/ 300npp/300 para) in a month and then going straight into the following ;

// note : i cruised for a bit and im 2.5 weeks into the test npp para as we speak //



Plan is ;

800 test E / 1000 eq / 400 tren E / 400 mast E for 12 weeks
--------------------------------------

Reasoning behind it;


800 test E

- for libido +mass im putting it at 800

1000 EQ

- makes me extremly vasculair like a walking erection. Love it more then tren as far as look goes

400 tren E

- gives me insane strenght and want to keep it on the low side as im going a total for 18 weeks including the para

400 Mast E

- mainly for bloating + libido


I know im complicating it a bit but eq destroys my libido at low or no test and this time i want the GF to be happy as wel instead of having sex once in 10 days while on EQ

Would appreciate critique, orals except anavar are out of the question. Superdrol at 20mg for 20 days made me yellow and went to hospital.

After this cycle im going to cruise And after that a full mass bulk and then off.


Thanks
just curious how your cycle formula turns out. recently just started using tren and from the research it seems the majority of people tend to keep their test doses much less than tren? i was curious to see what a large weekly dose of test would effect my tren and mast ratio. not to mention i'm a wee bit older than you so does that come into play with results? who knows ....seems like mostly trial and error.

thanx.