Injection FAQ

[BIGDADDY]

Source (http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/111479-massive-newbie-info.html#post1635775)

*What size needle do I need?

The smaller the gauge the larger the needle.
22 or 23 Gauge, 1.5 Inch is ideal for injections into the glutes.
22 or 23 Gauge, 1.0 inch is ideal for injections into the delts/quads.

*Will it hurt much?

It hurts about as much as a good pinch, but that is all. After the first couple of times you poke, you get used to it.

*For drawing from a vial:

***ALWAYS wash hands before injecting***
Wipe the top of the vial with an alcohol swab before the needle enters - do this every time you pull the bottle out from storage (do not blow on the top of the vial. Let the alcohol evaporate)
Pull back on the syringe approximately as much as you are going to fill it (i.e. - if you are going to draw one cc then first load one cc of air) poke the needle into the vial.
Inject the air into the bottle so that you have created a vacuum effect and drawing will be easier
*Pull back on the plunger until the desired amount is achieved (you may do this with the bottle upside down so that you can 'flick' the syringe to get the bubbles to settle while you are still in penetration
*Once you have the amount you are looking for you will either (A). be ready to switch needles or (B). you may leave the needle on for pulling from another vial if you are going to mix
*So (A). you will pull back on the plunger once you are out of the vial to get the remaining liquid out from the drawing needle's base
*Poking the needle in to the vial dulls it. At this point you may want to switch to a fresh (sharp) needle
You have now drawn from the vial.

*Injecting:

***Be careful not to touch the needle to ANYTHING. Think about it, you are injecting deep in to your body. Any foreign particles will be transferred deep in your tissue and you risk a nasty infection.
*Get all bubbles out of the needle - flick it until they rise to the top and then push them through the needle - make sure you get them completely out of the needle as well - don't worry about the juice dripping down the needle and don't even wipe it as it makes for great lubrication
*In the injection spot - for glute you will look down on the 'cheek' and imagine splitting it into 4 quadrants, you would inject into the upper most outer quadrant. For the leg, if you were sitting down you will inject into the outer part of the leg (but more on top, not on the side) where you have the most 'meat'
*Clean the site with alcohol and you are ready to inject
*Quickly pierce the skin and steadily push the needle into the muscle. Push in smoothly until you have but a couple centimeters left of the needle (you never inject all the way in as you want to make sure some is still visible in case the needle should break off and you need to retrieve it)
*Aspirate the syringe - pull back slightly on the plunger - you will see one of two things. (A). You will see a couple small air bubbles that when you stop applying pressure upward on the plunger will readily go back into the muscle or (B). Droplets of blood. (A) being the obviously favorable one. If there is blood you must pull out, switch needles and start over.
*If all is well you may begin injecting. Push in slowly - you will come to find that you can 'listen' to your body and it will let you know how much it is willing to receive at once - when I inject myself I apply consistent pressure to the plunger but I go in only as fast or slow as my muscle wants to at that time. Going too fast will potentially result in an abscess. When you have completed this, wait a few seconds and then pull out and take your alcohol swab and firmly press down and massage the site to make sure everything stays in the muscle and the massage will also prevent soreness in the morning. You may bleed just a little bit, so it helps to tape the alcohol soaked cotton ball to your injection site.

Miscellaneous Tips:

*If you are self-injecting, it helps to stretch out first. If you are poking yourself on the right cheek, use your right hand to poke, and support (under) the needle with your left hand. It is not the easiest thing to do, but it can be done.
*Never inject more than 3ccs at a time
*Never mix your water and oil based gear
*With the Winstrol (winny) shake well and you can inject water based with a slightly smaller gauge but in either case a 22-23g will work fine.
*Rotate injection spots. This will keep your receptors fresh. So right glute, right delt, right leg, left leg, left delt left glute - this will give you ample time off in between - it is up to you how much of the Winstrol (winny) you want to inject versus take orally - but you could potentially be taking quite a few shots - make sure you dont hit an injection spot more than once per wk - you are using 6 sites so you should be fine

Will also keep you from building scar tissue
*Injections are great after a shower so the muscle is relaxed and it also helps to roll the syringe in your hand or run under hot water to heat the liquid to make it easier on you.
***ALWAYS wash hands before injecting

[Jc1]

After injecting 2ml test e in my right leg 6 days ago my leg is very sore and is inflamed a bit , is there anything that can help. I followed your instructions on how to inject

Thanks

[SMonMTS]

After injecting 2ml test e in my right leg 6 days ago my leg is very sore and is inflamed a bit , is there anything that can help. I followed your instructions on how to inject

Thanks

Hot bath, sauna, workout could help disperse the oil if it has leaked out a little

[BIGDADDY]

After injecting 2ml test e in my right leg 6 days ago my leg is very sore and is inflamed a bit , is there anything that can help. I followed your instructions on how to inject

Thanks

For me... the only thing that works is to take ibuprofen. I get this issue sometimes. I've injected from the same needle 1/2ml into my left tricep and 1/2ml into my right one.... the left one has NO ISSUE, while the right one crippled my arm. Dunno why, just happens.

[Jc1]

I've got orange 5/8 would I be better off getting inch ones instead

[BIGDADDY]

I've got orange 5/8 would I be better off getting inch ones instead

that depends on your fat levels and site of injection. 5/8 is best suited for areas with lesser body fat accumulation. Eg. Triceps and Chest.

I wouldn't use it.

[finacat]

i personally use 25g 1" for everything

i pin glutes almost exculisvly but quads sometimes too

as i get leaner i can get away with 1/2 inch slin pins in quads but it leaves bruises on the surface of my skin lol

peptides go in delts with 1/2 inch slins

[Nitrox]

24G for areas with more fat.

26/27G 1/2 inch for areas with less fat.

Draw with a 21g pin.

[Drako]

Draw with 21g and inject with 25g. Never had any problems in any bodypart

[Ven0]

Anyone else here pin the Ventrogluteal site?

Was the first site I ever pinned which seems to be quite uncommon. I find it to be extremely easy without much room for complications.

[BIGDADDY]

Anyone else here pin the Ventrogluteal site?

Was the first site I ever pinned which seems to be quite uncommon. I find it to be extremely easy without much room for complications.

I chickened out! I was going to but couldn't go through it.

[SMonMTS]

How do you even find VG lol ?

[mrblue]

ventrogluteal region is great you can inject a substantial amount of gear into that spot and effortlessly too. It's a pretty common place to inject in medicine, just find a tutorial so you can hit the right place.

[SMonMTS]

ventrogluteal region is great you can inject a substantial amount of gear into that spot and effortlessly too. It's a pretty common place to inject in medicine, just find a tutorial so you can hit the right place.

I swear all of the guides are terrible! All the pictures look like they're pinning scary close to the hip lol. Just use DG and quads much easier

[Ven0]

Yep, all the medical guides and videos online are somewhat hard to understand. Especially since most of the injection are on regular people with little to no muscle mass. Finding the VG can be both hard and easy, depending on BF% and how well the muscle is developed.

These are my ways of locating it,
- stand up and shift your weight to one leg.
- Lift the other leg up and bring it up to a 90 degree angle
- You should see a muscle that is golfball sized (not shaped) starting to flex

Once you get the general idea of where the location is, try to locate it seated (preferably on low seat that gets your knees very slightly above your hip crease
- Slightly lean over to one side shifting weight to the non injection side
- On the other side you should see the dorsogluteal pop out
- push it a bit gauge whether or not it's actually muscle, should feel like you can stick in a 1" pin with no probs
- foot positioning on the injection side is important. I find the muscle sticks out if I have my heel raised on that foot.

I do mine seated, just find it way easier to do than the typical lying down procedure. I've heard of some people doing it standing, but seated just seems like the most relaxed method. If you are able to do the lying method the medical practitioners do then all the power to you.

Maybe if the demand is there I'll make a diagram up.

[SMonMTS]

Well a lot of people pin what they think is vg but it ends up being vastus laterus or something by looking at anatomy charts

[mrblue]

Pretty much what Ven0 said, the below picture should help too.

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(reference (http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/ventrogluteal_injection))

[botchla]

Well a lot of people pin what they think is vg but it ends up being vastus laterus or something by looking at anatomy charts

I can vouch for that! Was pinning it for several weeks before realising it wasn't what I was after! Last pin on my right side left a nasty bruise as well which wouldn't go away!

[SRRRRR]

a lot of good information here

[jrsandwich]

personally i use 25g for pinning, but have recently read up on guys using slin needles (29g-30g) 1/2inch, with no issues. Anyone have any experience with this? My worry is needle depth and oil viscosity.

[brimmy]

I use 27g 5/8" for everything except glutes I use 25g 1". Why use a larger needle than you need to? MTS oils are very good I find everything moves through a 27g quite easily.