What weekly test dose is your personal ceiling before the sides stop being worth it

[Jock]

Been stepping up my test dose each blast over the last 4 years. Currently at 750mg per week and genuinely feel like I have hit my ceiling. Above this the oily skin gets severe, water retention increases even with E2 well managed, and the mood is not where I want it. Anyone else found their personal limit and what were the specific sides that made you back off?

[Davo]

750mg is right where I landed too. Tried 1g for one blast, felt awful. Skin was a mess, retained water even with tight E2, and the gains versus 750mg were marginal at best. High dose test with managed E2 can still look worse visually than lower dose with a tighter diet. The watery look above 800mg is not an estrogen problem, AI does not fix it.

[Mick AU]

I went up to 1.2g once, early 40s, thought more was better. Oily skin was insane, back acne returned for the first time in years, and my mood was genuinely irritable in a way my partner noticed. Came back to 700mg the next blast and the quality of life improvement was immediate. Some guys feel great at 1g plus but I am not one of them. Individual variation is real but I think the majority hit a wall somewhere between 750mg and 1g.

[Beantown Rick]

700mg is where I stay now. Tried 900mg for 8 weeks, aggression and irritability were noticeable enough that I cut it short. Above 2g the community experience consistently says diminishing returns with dramatically worsening quality of life - mood, skin, water, PIP all compound. Nobody I know who has pushed above 2g recommends it in hindsight.

[MunichMarc]

This is interesting for me as a newer member. My first cycle was 500mg and I am planning 600mg for the second. Reading this thread I think I will stay at 600-700mg for several cycles before even considering going higher. It sounds like the marginal gains above 750mg are not worth the side effect tradeoff for most people.

[NYCgains]

800mg is my ceiling, found it after trying 1g twice. Ester length makes no practical difference to water or sides at equivalent weekly dose - prop versus cyp at 800mg weekly behaves essentially the same. People chase prop thinking it will be drier and it is not. The dose is the dose. Run labs at 6 weeks every blast and go by how you look and feel, not just the number.

[Marc NL]

Not at the high doses being discussed here yet but what I notice even at 500mg is that individual response varies enormously. My training partner runs 800mg and his skin is fine, minimal water. I ran 600mg last blast and had more oily skin than I expected. Genetics play a big part. The takeaway from this thread is that going by how you look and feel matters more than chasing a dose number.