8 weeks var at 50mg alongside test, actual numbers on strength and what stuck after

[Chi Guy]

Just wrapped a var run, 50mg daily for 8 weeks with test at 400mg weekly. Honest numbers: bench went up 22lbs in working sets, kept about 18lbs of that three weeks out. Liver AST hit 67 at the 4-week check with TUDCA 500mg daily running alongside. No joint issues which surprised me given var's reputation for drying out connective tissue. The dry keepable gains are real. Happy to answer questions on the run.

[Beantown Rick]

Numbers match what I've seen in my own runs. 60-65% strength retention post cycle is exactly the var signature - you're not keeping everything but what you keep is real and dry. The liver numbers you're reporting are normal for 50mg with TUDCA support. Anyone running var without liver support at that dose is making a mistake. Mid-cycle liver check at 4 weeks is the right call.

[FLbodybuilder]

Strength gain keepability on var is genuinely better than any wet oral because you're not losing a chunk of it as glycogen and water in the weeks post cycle. 60-65% retention is consistent with what I've seen over multiple runs. The 40mg vs 50mg debate - 40mg works for a first oral, 50mg is the practical sweet spot for males with prior cycle experience. Going above 80mg per day has diminishing keepable gains with a substantially worse liver profile. TUDCA 500mg daily throughout is non-negotiable at these doses.

[BERLINER]

Consistent with my tracking data across three var runs. The keepable strength gain percentage is the key metric and 60-70% is the reliable range at 50mg. I also ran var and winstrol stacked on my last prep cycle - the joint issues from winny were real and made training uncomfortable in the final three weeks. Var alone does not carry that problem. For a cutting cycle var solo is the cleaner choice unless you specifically need the winstrol hardening effect for the stage.

[MunichMarc]

Ran var at 40mg for my first oral run alongside test. Results matched what you're describing - strength gains from week 2, liver numbers elevated but manageable with TUDCA. Kept about 60% of the strength after 4 weeks off. Clean compound with a good keepable gain ratio. Will run it again at 50mg next time.