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TEXMEX
09-24-2024, 12:00 AM
Been seeing too many guys running AAS and still afraid of carbs like its 2012 keto era. On a proper blast your ability to utilise carbs for glycogen and protein sparing is way better than natural. Running test and deca at 600mg and 400mg, hitting 550g carbs daily and the difference compared to my previous blast where I was protein-heavy and moderate carb is night and day. Anyone else made the switch to genuinely high carb off-season and what are your numbers looking like?

Davo
09-30-2024, 12:00 AM
Been saying this for years. The guys who are afraid of carbs on a blast are leaving a significant portion of the gains on the table. The anabolic environment AAS creates is partly dependent on adequate carbohydrate substrate. Running 500g carbs on a heavy cycle, jasmine rice and cream of rice as the main sources because they digest fast. Pre and post workout timing still matters even on cycle. You get better pumps and recovery is noticeably faster when the carbs are loaded around training rather than spread evenly through the day.

Beantown Rick
10-01-2024, 12:00 AM
Carbs on cycle is one of those things that should not need to be said but apparently still does. Running AAS and eating 250g carbs daily is not a blast. That is a calorie-restricted TRT cruise with expensive urine. On a serious off-season blast you need fuel to match the anabolic environment the compounds create. 500g minimum for most guys above 200 lbs. The jasmine rice and cream of rice approach for fast-digesting carbs is what I have used for 10 years. Pre and post workout loading matters even with enhanced recovery.

FrankfurtFit
10-04-2024, 12:00 AM
Carbohydrate periodisation on cycle: higher carbs on training days, moderate on rest days. The specific timing of pre and post workout carbohydrate loading still produces measurably better recovery and training quality even when the total daily intake is already high. This is not as important off cycle but on a blast the hormonal environment amplifies the training-day carbohydrate response. Members who track this report better session quality and less fatigue accumulation over a long blast compared to even carbohydrate distribution throughout the week.

Mick AU
10-07-2024, 12:00 AM
Yeah reckon high carbs on a blast is non-negotiable. Running 480g carbs daily on my current off-season, up from 300g last cycle. The difference in fullness, pump, and weekly strength progression is clear. Jasmine rice 3 times a day is boring but it works. The guys afraid of carbs on cycle are leaving gains behind that no amount of compound adjustment can make up for.

Geoff K
10-08-2024, 12:00 AM
Made the switch to high carb off-season two cycles ago and it was the right call. Was running about 280g carbs before. Bumped to 450g and the difference in fullness, strength, and weekly progress was noticeable within 3 weeks. Jasmine rice is the staple. Digests fast, easy to cook in bulk, no issues eating it 3 times a day. If you are on a proper blast and still running moderate carbs you are limiting what the cycle can do.

BERLINER
10-09-2024, 12:00 AM
Structured approach to carbohydrates on cycle: calculate 3-4g per kg of bodyweight per day as the working range and track it for the first 4 weeks until it becomes automatic. At 105kg bodyweight I run 380-420g carbs daily on a blast. Pre-workout: fast-digesting carbs 60-90 minutes before training. Post-workout: same within 30 minutes. The rest distributed across meals. This structure produces better results than simply eating more rice without timing consideration.

Jock
10-10-2024, 12:00 AM
Simple rule. On a blast you eat carbs. Plenty of them. Anyone running AAS and still keeping carbs moderate is wasting the compounds. The gear creates the environment. Carbs are the fuel that feeds what the gear built. 400g minimum on a serious blast. More if your bodyweight supports it. Jasmine rice. Get on with it.

Chi Guy
10-12-2024, 12:00 AM
This is the conversation that needs to happen more often. Thirty years of watching bodybuilders be afraid of carbs while on compounds that specifically enhance carbohydrate utilisation. It makes no sense. The anabolic environment AAS creates is partly dependent on glycogen availability. Running 600g carbs on a serious blast is not overeating. It is fuelling what the compounds have set up. Cream of rice, jasmine rice, high glycemic fruits around training. The guys who actually look different after an off-season are the ones eating this way.

AucklandA
10-12-2024, 12:00 AM
High carb off-season is something I committed to properly on my last cycle and the difference was real. Was running 280g carbs before, pushed to 420g on the blast. The fullness and pump in the gym changed noticeably. Recovery between sessions was better. Jasmine rice twice a day plus a shake with oats and banana - straightforward approach that hits the numbers without making every meal complicated. Anyone still running moderate carbs on AAS is limiting what the cycle can achieve.

MunichMarc
10-13-2024, 12:00 AM
High carb approach on cycle is something I started only after reading enough experience from this forum. German fitness culture is very protein-focused and carbs get treated as something to manage rather than maximise. Switched to 400g carbs daily on my last blast and the training improvement was clear. The muscle fullness on cycle at high carbs versus moderate carbs is a visible difference. Will not go back to moderate carbs on a blast after this experience.

SydneyFit
10-14-2024, 12:00 AM
High carb off-season approach is something I only started taking seriously on my second blast. First blast I was eating enough protein but moderate carbs, figured that was sufficient. The jump in training quality and recovery when I pushed carbs up to 420g was noticeable within 2 weeks. The pump in the gym is just different at high carbs on cycle. Jasmine rice twice a day plus a mass shake gets me there without destroying my stomach.

FLbodybuilder
10-15-2024, 12:00 AM
25 years of watching guys under-eat carbs on a blast and wonder why the gains are subpar. On a serious cycle with test at 700 or above, 500g of carbs is a floor not a ceiling for a 100kg athlete. The insulin sensitivity and glycogen utilisation on cycle is significantly enhanced. You are wasting the anabolic window by not fuelling it properly. Pre and post workout carb timing matters even with AAS running. The guys hitting 600g plus and loading around training are the ones whose after photos look like a different person.

CapeTown CT
10-16-2024, 12:00 AM
High carbs on a blast is something I only figured out on my third cycle. Was keeping carbs moderate because I did not want to add too much body fat during off-season. Pushed to 400g on the last blast and the difference in weekly strength progress and muscle fullness was obvious. The fat gain was no more than the previous cycles at lower carbs. The body on AAS just uses carbs differently. Should have done this sooner.