Cycle advise

[ramaxa]

Hello guys! Are there any cycles or stacks I can do to gain some lean muscles but to keep water as low as possible? What would you recommend for me as a first timer on injectables please? I have done Anavar + Tbol 50mg a day for 6 weeks before only followed by a light PCT.
My height is 175cm and weight 70kg but I am not sure about my fat percentage. There is my pic in attachment.

Kindest regards.

[hasheagle]

- test prop instead of test enan/cyp
- avoid dbol, deca and other wet compounds
- use tren ace and mast prop (basically dry compounds)

[BIGDADDY]

I've moved this to the cycle section of the forum. yes as above. But i find you cannot gain for shit if you don't have high test, dbol and deca in the mix. Really no real way to get lean gains... it will take so fucking long that you would be wasting all your time. I would take the test, deca, dbol but have a decent diet. That's my view. The reason why people look all fat and shit on those compounds is because you'll find they eat everything and anything in sight.

[ramaxa]

I eat clean all the time, count my calories. I have been advised to stay on maintain diet, to take sustanon (I think a long life one) every 4th day, so I don't do a lot of jabs as I'm a first timer, then 2 weeks later add Anavar 75mg for 6 weeks, then pct. Also to take tamoxifen while on cycle 1 a day to keep estrogen down. What do you think about this?

[hasheagle]

I eat clean all the time, count my calories. I have been advised to stay on maintain diet, to take sustanon (I think a long life one) every 4th day, so I don't do a lot of jabs as I'm a first timer, then 2 weeks later add Anavar 75mg for 6 weeks, then pct. Also to take tamoxifen while on cycle 1 a day to keep estrogen down. What do you think about this?

to keep estrogen low => get arimidex or aromasin.

sustanon for your first cycle bad idea.. i dont know how many different esters of testosterone there are inside sustanon but i think a first timer should start with test e at 250 mg per week minimum (high TRT dose) split into two injections per week.

[gambit]

how old r u.

pers id stick with a basic "starter" cycle. u never pinned? oh my.

pick up some test e or test cyp here and pin it twice a week. kick with an oral if u want.
but u never pinned so id get used to pinning alonger ester first.

oral only cycles arent the way to go.

[ramaxa]

Thank you guys! So, I get test e 250mg a week split in two injections. E.g: 125mg Monday follow by 125mg Thursday? How long can I cycle it like that? When do I start PCT? Also, would it be a good idea to take Anavar, Tbol or Winstrol along side with test e to keep water down? Arimidex during whole cycle to keep estrogen down?

Sorry guys, never done that before, just wanna plan it properly...

[Diary of a beast]

you should be fine on 250mg a week.

Skip Anavar and Winny and go for something like Dbol to kick start your cycle. Your Ai dosage is really down to you to dial and see what works best for you. I also recommend picking up some Nolva it's always good to have it on hand if Gyno flares.

Here is a good link about injections :

https://mtsboard.com/threads/29-Injection-FAQ

https://mtsboard.com/threads/316-A-newbie-guide-to-painless-injections


A few more good posts I found really helpful:

https://mtsboard.com/threads/28-I-m-new-and-I-m-looking-for-a-good-first-cycle

https://mtsboard.com/threads/34-Beginner-Cycles

https://mtsboard.com/threads/30-Bulking-for-beginners-by-3J


PCT??? never heard of it ;)

I recommend reading about Blast and Cruise which most people on here prefer doing. spend some time on the Forums they have loads of info here and experienced people to help.

[brimmy]

I would also reccomend doubling your dose of test. 250mg is very low.

[ramaxa]

I have done a bit more of research, went through all links here, so decided to go on Sust and Tbol for a first time, to see how my body responds. I won't be taking any Nolva along the cycle, but will have some in case of any sides come up. There is my plan pictured. Sust 500mg every 5th day. Tbol starts on the 14th day after 1st jab at 50mg split by 25mg every 12hrs. So I run Tbol for 14 days after my last jab and than PCT. I am 33 y.o. There is my plan pictured. Any comments please? Thanks294

[BIGDADDY]

Take the sust more frequently. EOD instead.

Once per week is not effective because of the short esters in it.