How to fix "Deca Dick"...

[sussupps]

Hey lads,

Now over the past 4 weeks I've been using Deca for the first time ever. I'm quite experienced with steroids but have never used Deca before so I thought I'd experiment with it this offseason. I'm using 600mgs MTS Deca 300 with 1200mgs MTS Test 400 and some Anadrol.

My dick just refuses to respond to any sexual stimulation, I've never had this problem before, would it be the Deca?

I was thinking of just using cialis while on Deca but if there's any other better solutions out there I'd love to hear them!

Much love x

[brimmy]

What're you taking for oestrogen and how much? And have you been taking any prami or caber?

[hasheagle]

What're you taking for oestrogen and how much? And have you been taking any prami or caber?

it is not about estrogen when the OP has a deca dick, it is prolactin. to fight prolactin, he needs prami or caber. my preference is caber because it doesn't taste as shit as prami.

since he is taking test400, there could be a chance of having high estrogen, which is why the OP may need arimidex or aromasin.

having said all that, the OP needs to do bloodwork to know where he is at now. we don't have the data on his prolactin or e2 levels. hence, mine is just an anecdotal advice.

[sussupps]

What're you taking for oestrogen and how much? And have you been taking any prami or caber?

Hey bro.
I've been having 1/4 of a Letrozole tab (2.5mg) every 3 days just to keen my gyno under control. Other than that I'm not using any prami or caber.

[brimmy]

Hey bro.
I've been having 1/4 of a Letrozole tab (2.5mg) every 3 days just to keen my gyno under control. Other than that I'm not using any prami or caber.

Letro dosage seems realistic, you could probably rule out low/high oestrogen.

You may need to invest in some caber or prami to help things along.

[brimmy]

it is not about estrogen when the OP has a deca dick, it is prolactin. to fight prolactin, he needs prami or caber. my preference is caber because it doesn't taste as shit as prami.

since he is taking test400, there could be a chance of having high estrogen, which is why the OP may need arimidex or aromasin.

having said all that, the OP needs to do bloodwork to know where he is at now. we don't have the data on his prolactin or e2 levels. hence, mine is just an anecdotal advice.

When did I say it was oestrogen related? I was trying to establish if it may be oestrogen related, if he were boning a tab of letro a day his issue could've been low oestrogen.

[BIGDADDY (OLD)]

Hey lads,

Now over the past 4 weeks I've been using Deca for the first time ever. I'm quite experienced with steroids but have never used Deca before so I thought I'd experiment with it this offseason. I'm using 600mgs MTS Deca 300 with 1200mgs MTS Test 400 and some Anadrol.

My dick just refuses to respond to any sexual stimulation, I've never had this problem before, would it be the Deca?

I was thinking of just using cialis while on Deca but if there's any other better solutions out there I'd love to hear them!

Much love x

Reduce your dose down to nothing over the next 4 weeks and replace with EQ!!fuck using all these other products to counter act it,EQ will do the job without such issues and add a couple of tabs of PROVIRON a day into your arsenal,this worked for me!!

[Magician]

your issue is most likely estrogen, deca increases aromtasion rate by 40% and with that much test,,, well shit..
im on deca solo now no issues.
I would run calcium d gluciate 2000 a day to remove excess estrogen
and lower your test or drop the deca or both.

[Magician]

Ill also add i dont use letro adex or asin anymore.
calcium d glucirate better for your health in more ways than 1 and works better than all of them with 0 side effects.

[brimmy]

your issue is most likely estrogen, deca increases aromtasion rate by 40% and with that much test,,, well shit..
im on deca solo now no issues.
I would run calcium d gluciate 2000 a day to remove excess estrogen
and lower your test or drop the deca or both.

Where have you for this information that deca increases the aromatise of other compounds? I think you may be confused/misinformed as that is not correct.

[Magician]

Where have you for this information that deca increases the aromatise of other compounds? I think you may be confused/misinformed as that is not correct.

ill try find it for you tommo, unlikely im confused but maybe. i remember reading it somewhere.

[Magician]

ok i cant sleep so here it goes

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22906881

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[Magician]

but it makes sense, ppl hold water on test..ppl hold more water on test + deca..but deca solo is little water like eq

[Powertard]

Very interesting, Magician! I knew Nandrolone upregulates Aromatase but I never knew it was by as much as 40% increase in rate of aromatisation!! Crazy!

I'm dropping deca now, replaced it with tri bold :)

As for OP, it really could be estrogen. I have never had issues with deca dick and I have blasted deca as high as gram with 300 test no AI no problems with penis.


My friends have run deca solo, no issues either with sex drive or penis

[Anton3196]

U mentioned that u used letro
I can say 100% that too low estrogen makes your dick not respond no any sexual stimulation, maybe u lwoered it too much
do you have any low estro symptoms? it could be not problem from deca but from estrogen (too low or too high)

[Magician]

Very interesting, Magician! I knew Nandrolone upregulates Aromatase but I never knew it was by as much as 40% increase in rate of aromatisation!! Crazy!

I'm dropping deca now, replaced it with tri bold :)

As for OP, it really could be estrogen. I have never had issues with deca dick and I have blasted deca as high as gram with 300 test no AI no problems with penis.


My friends have run deca solo, no issues either with sex drive or penis
i think i was mistaken about the 40% , i think i got confused with test aromatising upwards of 40%
but deca defs increases it im not sure on the number though

[Magician]

U mentioned that u used letro
I can say 100% that too low estrogen makes your dick not respond no any sexual stimulation, maybe u lwoered it too much
do you have any low estro symptoms? it could be not problem from deca but from estrogen (too low or too high)

too many things bad about letro
I would drop it and use calcium d glucirate itll give you normal estrogen balance,

"Also ever took letro and still had nipple sentivity? Wonder why? Letro lowers shgb dramatically this allows free testosterone to spike and as a result free estrogen, this is the reason the letro gyno reversal protocol doesn?t work"

[hasheagle]

too many things bad about letro
I would drop it and use calcium d glucirate itll give you normal estrogen balance,

"Also ever took letro and still had nipple sentivity? Wonder why? Letro lowers shgb dramatically this allows free testosterone to spike and as a result free estrogen, this is the reason the letro gyno reversal protocol doesn?t work"

you meant calcium d glucarate.

[Magician]

you meant calcium d glucarate.
What ?
I'm suggesting he try calcium d glucirate over the letro, costs like 20$ ..

[flexer]

drop test and use more deca. keep estro in check and you wont have prolactin issues. test is the problem maker