Help coming off of 100 mcg t4

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Hello...been a fucking idiot and ran 100 mcg for too long...16 weeks.

Started off amazing. Warm all the time and plesently so, lots of energy, recomping like fuck. That lasted for about 10-12 weeks. Past 3-4 weeks I noticed I have been getting depressed, lethargic and tired. Feeling cold a lot etc. Gained a little fst deapite not changing calories or activity level (weigh all food) and even cutting them back by 200.

Past week has been aweful. Brain fog... cannot even concentrate on basic maths. Feel like shit with no energy and cold. Underarm temp in morning is 35-36 degrees c despite going to bed with a thermal hat on and sleeping with a t shirt on with my radiator on.

So it looks like I have shut down my thyroid and the 100 mcg t4 isn't enough. Looks like my thyroid was good up until a month ago now it is surpressed.

Taking a tsh free t4 and free t3 test tomorrow.

Dr advised tapering off at 50 mcg for a week thrn off entirely.

How long until I feel like I am not dying if this is indeed my thyroid and how will my recovery be? Am I going to go full fatass mode and be freezing cold with no memory or cognition for like 6 weeks? Very scared.

If anyone has any advice please post.

And this is what I get for being a retard and running t4 for too long. Should have stopped at week 10-12 and likely would have been fine.

[BIGDADDY]

I took T3 50mcg for 3 years. I just did a sudden stop. Found I was back to normal fairly quickly.

Are you sure that you were on the right dose of T4? 100 mcg is quite a small dose.

Many athletes will take 50mcg of T3. The ratio of T3 to T4 of which is 3-4 times.

http://centraldrugsrx.com/pdf/Thyroid_Conversion_Chart_08-13a.pdf


the therapeutic substitution of l-T3 for l-T4 was achieved at approximately 1:3 ratio
http://www.gpnotebook.co.uk/simplepage.cfm?ID=x20130501140443685340

Maybe I've got it wrong, but please enlighten me if I have. Thanks.

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Thank you for the informative and swift reply Mr Big. It is much valued.

I was taking it initially with the medtopin :) t4+hgh is like god serum for recomping some how...it works and it works insanely from my experience!

Apparently t3 is easier to recover from, half life is 48 hrs so it is cleared in hsrdly any time then about 2-3 wks later your thyroid is back online again. T4 has a half life of 6 days so it takes a long time to clear before your thyroid boots up again, supposidly.

100 mcg is a low dose, I kept it low intentionally as I thought as I was euthyroidal (had 4 tests) I would be gtg and it would just act to supplement my bmr. Initially it seemed to work great but now I have hypothyroid symptoms. Cannot be sure until test results are back.

Whst did you experience as your thyroid was booting back up, Mr big? Any loss of cognition? Did you gain fat?

[Somebodystrong]

How do you know t4 is causing you these problems? I would recommend you get your estradiol and prolactin levels checked also. I would also cut out tren for now since it lowers t3+t4.
I would recommend supplementing with GABA.

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Very congurent to hypothyroidism especially the low basal temperature. I don't know for sure until I get my test results back.

Tren idea is interesting, on enth so it will take time to clear.

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I am off to bed now fellas, wasn't expecting a reply tonigbt but I got two so I am very appreciative.

Thanks everyone.

[brimmy]

I took T4 at 200mcgs for 12 weeks then stopped cold turkey and didn't experience any problems, this was after using T3 for about 6 months at doses ranging from 50-100mcg.

[Serotonin101]

Could always bridge in a sorts with low dose t3 til the t4 clears similar to how people use prop/ace after a cycle til the longer esters clear before doing pct (ha pct...).
Honestly I'd say wait it out, that would be the best option and the safest. Adjust diet to make sure you don't out eat your thyroid, ingest proper amounts of iodine and selenium, and just wait it out. A few Brazil nuts a day would be sufficient for these. Micronutrients. Do not eat the nuts if you have a thyroid condition such as hashimotos disease.

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Just woke up basal underarm temp 35.3 c oral 35.5c in ear is 35.5-35.7

Not good

Just getting ready to go to dr now

I was also thinking about the low dose t3

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Back from dr

In ear temp was 37-37.2 at the surgury but I did some walking and also was wearing a thermal hat over my ears.

Just about to to and eat (250 g no fat cottage cheese, 500 g pink lady apple with a sprinkle of cinnamon warmed in the microwave in chunks) get hydrated and take my blood test.

Dr advised again to take 50 mcg for 1-2 weeks see how I feel hen go off entirely.

What do you reckon guys? Should my thyroid start booting back up or should I just go off entirely now? Will any dose of exogenous t4 shut it down so 50 mcg will stop recovery or will 50 mcg allow for partial recovery so the t4+partial thyroid function amounts to a normal thyroid then come off it?

[Comerford]

The only true places to get your body temperatur is rectal,in your blood stream
or in the bladder.
Every other location is most likely not accurat.
Working on an ICU,I know what I'm talking about.

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I have a digit thermometer. Not even joking I will try that tomorrow.

Lol

Bloods are all sent off

[Somebodystrong]

Did u get ur estrogen and prolactin lvls checked?

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Could only afford a thyroid monitoring profile from medichecks so no hormones

Estrogen and prolactin should be fine, only on 500 tren enth no deca. Run very high deca, high tren and also combined both in the past no issues. Also no estrogenic effects like nipples hurting etc and it certainly isn't low right niow

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Here we go... starting just 50 mcg tomorrow.

Wish me luck.

Thyroid results will be in on 100 mcg on Thurs

Will be logging morning body temps etc

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Underarm temp 35.8 c

Aannnddd here we go...

....ass temp 37.0 c

[Serotonin101]

Underarm temp 35.8 c

Aannnddd here we go...

....ass temp 37.0 c

Did you like it? :P

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No

I loved it ;)

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Not too fussed atm since ass temp is spot on normal

Seems to be the best indicator of metabolic rate vs auxiliary temp

Test results back tomorrow! Excited and nervous. Have 4 results to compare to so I have a good idea of what homeostasis is for my body.

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Test results back in a few hours hopefully


Morn basal temperature
Oral 36.8
Arm 36.0
Ass 37.0

Looks normal apart from arm. Perhaps thr thermometer isn't reading it right

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Test results from 29th AUGUST btw was that my free levothyroxine (free t4) was 21.3 pmol/l with the max normal range being 22.0 pmol/l....

So I probably had a kickass metabolism assuming I was converting to t3 correctly. ffs why did I mess with this lol.

Still no results back from medichecks regarding recent blood test. Should be here today any time. I am nervous.

Edit: FUCK

The blood test hemolyzed meaning no results.

Fuck it, strapped to the ride now. Will just get it done in 3 weeks time or so.

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I think thyroid is staring to kick back in already....

Measured core body temp before bed, 37.5 c

37.2 c waking

Feel hot all the time, was having to wear 3 layers in my house a few days ago now I am warm with just my boxer shorts on. Tonnes more energy. Resting hr is up too

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Hmm, this is odd.

I feel very warm in the morning a few hours after my dose however towards the end of the day I feel cold

Slept a little better last night

Been on 50 mcg now in the morning for 5 days now iirc.

Going to retake that test again soon to see what is going on. If TSH is okay then I will come off it entirely and should be fine.

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Thank goodness. Got an apt with the nurse practitioner so I am getting bloods done on nhs. Phew! Gonnna see thyroid etc as well as rbc lipids etc. So glad. Might be able to get a refund on that thyroid test I bought! Almot a good thing the sample hemolyzed!

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Morning basal temperature currently 36.8 c.

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Getting a bit concerned now. Morning temps are dropping and past 2 days I haven't hit 37.0 or over at all. Currently 36.7-36.9. Morning and night. Feeling very tired lots of brain fog. Lethargic. Cannot think much.

Blood results back on Monday so we can get some idea of where I am/was.

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Tsh came back at 1.94
Didn't test free t3 or free t4

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Got another blood test in about 3 weeks, will see how I recover

Not doing too badly nowadays