No PIP at all with either product. I was already on TRT so the Test kicked in around 2.5 weeks. Tren really showed its magic after week 5. I did run this cycle at a higher body fat percentage but I did drop down to 14%. Sides subsided after I increased Tren from 400 to 600 a week. This was my second time doing Tren and MTS’s product is far more stronger and the results far exceeded my expectations. Im still recovering from distal
bicep tendon surgery and the Tren really helped with my muscle getting stronger in a shorter period of time.

I’m trying a Test/EQ cycle next and look forward to sharing my experience.