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    350 test enth 800 deca/w

    Hello

    Injured! Torn hip flexor from falling over on ice
    Not too bad, still squatting light
    Powerlifter

    I usually run 525 test 420 Deca/w

    But I thought I'd try 350 test 800 deca, as an experiment since I cannot progress anyway due to being injured and I thought I'd cut at a 300-500 defecit to lose some fat

    I thought there will be less overall aromatisation therefore less side effects, (350 test 800 deca aromatised at about the same as 500 test only, 525 test 420 deca is higher aromatisation), I will look better since I will be looking thicker and fuller from high deca, theoretically more anabolic effect and higher nitrogen retention since nandrolone is better than this than testosterone and also since I am cutting better nutrient partitioning is always a good thing! Nandrolone actually has very similar/close nutrient parting effects to Trenbolone! It shits on testosterone for this.

    Possible sides is "deca dick" and loss of libo/not being able or orgasm/blunted orgasms but I actually feel this is a fallacy! I reckon the reasons why guys get "deca dick" is the combo of high estrogen and the progestin effects of 19-nors exaggerate that! So lower test = less aromatisation = less estrogen = dick working? Let's see!

    I will be using 0.5 mg Arimidex EOD, too, pharm grade (this may be too much I might have to dial that back)

    I have always said lower test higher deca will shit on higher test lower deca, now my money is where my mouth is!

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    Possible sides is "deca dick" and loss of libo/not being able or orgasm/blunted orgasms but I actually feel this is a fallacy!
    Not a fallacy my man....it's embarrassing when the hottest girl doesn't get your dick working.

    With a torn hip flexor, don't know why you are even squatting at all. Just do leg presses and leg extensions and recover. No point being a crippled powerlifter.

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    I have never experienced it Mr Big, maybe it is just a thing some guys suffer other people not? I have run 700 test e 1.2 g deca, dick broke took AI then viola libido sky high rock boners after 10 or so days
    IIRC there are studies showing that high serum estrogens + progestins is what cripples penis
    I have spoken to guys that run 150-200 test-e 1.5 g deca and have had problems with "deca dick" on 500 test e 1 g deca but their sex drive is great on low test higher deca

    My Gym doesn't have a legpress I am just doing like 140-160 Kg for high volume triples reallllyyyyyy focusing on technique and form and shooting 200 mcg BPC 157 2-3x a day into the injured area
    Not hurting anymore, well, when I sort of raise my leg outwards and upwards it does but squatting is okay! BPC 157 has really helped, I had a similar injury from a combo of falling over + then sumo deadlifting and I had shooting pains in my glutes/hams and down my inner thigh for weeks, this time I only had it for a few days now it's gone unless I take the piss with it
    You are right, ideally I would be leg pressing and doing leg extensions and using like 100 Kg to practice form with keep motor patterns etc but I cannot do that

    and must be horrible having a nice woman there and ready and not being able to rise to the occasion

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    hmm

    Wondering if I should add in 50 mg ED Trenbolone when my hipflexor is better and I have gone through physio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powertard View Post
    hmm

    Wondering if I should add in 50 mg ED Trenbolone when my hipflexor is better and I have gone through physio
    Surely you should return back slowly.... doesn't matter what you take as long as there is progression and you have a objective or goal. Make sure you are not just adding things for the sake of adding things, and don't return back quickly and fuck it up all again.

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    Of course, that would be the intention

    I thought Tren ace could be a good addition because I could cut calories lower (600 deficit vs 300) so I would get leaner faster without losing much/any muscle mass and due to the restricted calories progress back would be slower anyway

    Basically I thought tren could allow me to cut calories lower and the strength/aggression/highly anabolic properties could allow me to progress in a large deficit but still fairly slow

    Also I have never run tren before and would like to test it out before instead if whacking it in there during my next strength peak without knowing how I would respond to it

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    Like 350 test 800 deca on a 300 def, I will probably lose nothing or next to nothing... maybe even build a little bit!

    600 def will be significant performance drop from my exp + fairly noticeable muscle loss

    Tren would compensate for lower calories so to speak

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    If repairing damaged tissue you know we preach lower doses and rehabilitation work as aas has not been showed to help with those kind of injuries. Also give the body a break as stressing other areas of the body by lifting still slows healing process.
    Once healed, I see most powerlifters going equal doses of test:deca. Can always use mast and keep diet in check along with ai to reduce bloof.
    For cutting weight use lowest doses as not much is needed to maintain muscle. I'd arguably say for most that don't have competition grade physiques, trt test with 175 tren would hold their muscle. If truly doubting then 300 test/week and to be absolutely sure then 300 test 350 tren. Why waste hormones?i see so many people blasting grams of gear (not your situation) for a cut and I just don't get it. I'm cutting wonderfully on trt test and 400 desoxytest cyp. I'm a little flat but it'll come back with some carbs.

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    I am more aiming to slow cut/recomp over 3 or so months
    Also I just want to see how high deca lower test works! I am convinced I will not get penis issues, but I want to test it out before I "prescribe" a cycle like that to a client of mine

    You are correct, trt test 175 tren ace will be enough to maintain muscle in a non retard low caloric def

    I am mainly testing out dosing protocols during my injury time and recomping

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    Ah OK. Wasn't sure of your time line. Then by all means that seems reasonable.

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