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Thread: First cycle at 21, Figuring things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade77 View Post
    And this may sound naive; as I know one is a SERM and one an AI - but I've heard mixed reviews of tamoxifen and arimidex on the same cycle. Are there any drawbacks?

    Sorry for all the questions, just keen to learn! Thanks guys.
    No worries mate. I just don't like people giving not giving useful advice I.E. "You don't even know how to use your AI or SERMS, gtfo you shouldn't be cycling" those sorts of comments.
    Its good you asked before you do it wrong etc anyways.

    At the same time its counter productive yes. The reason why people want to run no AI etc is obviously you're pumping in alot of drugs into your body... You can look at it like this: You start getting side effects classic counter measure is reduce / stop taking it. Modern counter measure... better use more drugs to counter side effects of other drugs. Not an exactly healthy approach if you look at it like that.
    What those mixed reviews are about is the ones who are using them both at the same time for PCT or whatever. (Adex isn't near as effective for pct as other drugs)

    Now just so you don't get it wrong.
    Your SERM: Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) you use at 2-3 weeks after your final injection date. To start with your post cycle therapy. You should not use this during your cycle at all.
    Your AI: Arimidex, you use if you start noticing high oestrogen sides IE. bloated/water filled face or body. puffy/itchy nipples. low/no libido. etc... If you can cycle a full 12 weeks without the AI then consider yourself a lucky man.
    Oh... and of course don't leave it until you start feeling literally a lump under/behind your nipple as thats the very first step of actually getting gyno meaning you'd probably have to use an AI every time you cycle. (My personal experience and mistake)

    Anyhow now thats clear. I don't wanna spoonfeed you too much as you should be doing your own research on this too (not saying you haven't) find out when and how to use your AI with appropriate dosages etc.

    Also DW about your dosages. My last two cycles with MTS is literally CC/ML based rather than MG based so I had different numbers as well for example 800mg test rather than 750mg or 1g. 100mg more than the recommended beginner cycle is fine at your stats IMO.

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    Thanks for the responses guys, after hours of my own research and your input things are feeling a fair bit clearer. I’ll continue with more readings around the net, but this has been really useful. I appreciate the help!

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