Thread: First cycle at 21, Figuring things out.

Lean out first. Your first cycle you're gonna see very crazy gains. But get lean before you start - your body wants to stay in a state of homeostasis so if you start fat you'll look fat, you start lean you're gonna look amazing at the end of the cycle with all the muscle added on.

Yep! Definitely have that as a focus prior to starting. I figure I’ve got about a month of hard work before I start anyway. Was just hoping to get more of an opinion and understanding on PCT. Also wouldn’t mind hearing if it’s smartest to start with just Test E, or stack.

Originally Posted by Van

Everyone says keep it nice and simple with Test only. I could say add Anavar towards the last 6 weeks of the cycle OR grab some Masteron since that would keep oestrogen side effects at bay.
I tried the Tren Mast Test stack on my second cycle and I'll probably never use Mast again since I've lost ridiculous amount of hair whilst on that. I'll give it a shot in future again probably when I'm bald XD

Either way with Anavar/Mast or just Test only you should be pleased with gains.

for PCT I've always just used 1 cap of each Nolvadex (20mg) and Clomid (50mg) every day until the pack ran out (so about 3.5-4 weeks) and that always seems to work for me... but everyone's recovery is different.
Some don't even recover at all.
IMO you could try Med Tech's own PCT blend. I'm avoiding it mainly because of the Provion but other than that it seems very good for value to me.
Just to add. A few years ago at one of the hardcore gyms I visited. The owner recommend that you use the full stack of Clomid, HCG and Nolvadex if you plan on going off for a long time.
However if you could only take one He'd recommend the Clomid.

Great reply man, really appreciate that. I probably won't be cycling too often so it may be worth my considering the Clomid, HCG, Nolvadex mix (but I know everyone says that at the start). Mind if I ask why you're avoiding the Provion? I'm glad you brought up the balding factor in Mast, as it is hereditary in one side of my family. I think I've lucked my way out of that one, but if possible to skip the notorious ones for early onset I will. But I do know that it's just something you have to be prepared for in the Anabolics world.