Thread: My take on the road to enhanced training

Originally Posted by MR BIG

Ironmaster, what's your thoughts on TALL guys with bigger frames. Surely the dosages you are providing is proportionally relevant for a smaller sized guy?

Surely a guy who is 198cm tall and weighs 300lbs will need a lot more than

750mg of sus250 per week
750mg of test e per week
100mg of Anap ED

My experience has shown that every tall guy I know eats more and takes more drugs than a well built short guy. Maybe the short guy looks bigger or better relatively, but the tall guy makes half as much gains unless he's on a hell of a lot of hgh, insulin and gear. Plus much more food.

Could be some truth to that. I mean it will take a shorter guy less time to reach his top end but if you took two guys at different heights and each both gained 5kg using the same doses of course it will look like the shorter guy gained more but the real truth is they both gained 5kg

Like I said this sport is a game of time not how much gear you stick in a needle. The taller guy just needs to be a little more patient.

I hope this makes sense.

Originally Posted by MR BIG

Ironmaster, what's your thoughts on TALL guys with bigger frames. Surely the dosages you are providing is proportionally relevant for a smaller sized guy?

Surely a guy who is 198cm tall and weighs 300lbs will need a lot more than

750mg of sus250 per week
750mg of test e per week
100mg of Anap ED

My experience has shown that every tall guy I know eats more and takes more drugs than a well built short guy. Maybe the short guy looks bigger or better relatively, but the tall guy makes half as much gains unless he's on a hell of a lot of hgh, insulin and gear. Plus much more food.

Also the little story I told above about the guy take that cycle listed above was a tall dude about 190cm he went from 98kg to a 120kg all within 3 months and he still had a small waist he just looked full of air like a big water bag and he would sweet like a pig just looked un healthy.

Yes high dose are needed the more advanced you get but lower doses in the first couple of years I think will build you a better body in the long run.

IMHO start low and when you get to the stage of needing 1000mg per week to make gains then I believe in blitz cycles to shock more growth.

Even though I have not competed since 2006 I did keep experimenting and this is what I came up with and have advised other guys to do with great results.

Ok like I said you are now a big unit and been doing cycles of 1000mg per week of just test or a combo of test anabolic and orals but over all you do not go over 1000mg per week running it for 10-16 weeks then pct ( I would advise using test only cycles off season and combo cycles if wanting to prep for a show.

Example
Off season
week 1
500mg test
week 2-10
1000mg test
week 11-14
500mg test
week 15-16
250mg test and start PCT with 5000iu hgh E4D to start the nuts up again with 40mg novla
week 17-18
20mg novla
then run 30 days of clomid 50mg ed

then train 4 weeks clean and do it again also do not for get to run an AI through out the cycle too

If doing a comp prep

16 week cycle break it down into 4 week blocks

1-4
750mg long acting test
200mg deca
30mg d bol

5-8
500mg long acting test
400mg deca
t3 25mcg ed

9-12
100mg test prop EOD
50mg tren a EOD
50mg Anapolan ED
t3 50mg ed

13-16
Test suspension 50mg mix with 50mg stan both water based ED
Tren a 50mg ed
or
Mast 100mg with tren a 50mg ed

t3 25mcg ed

That is about it

Although your training and diet would be adjusted to the goal you needed but that is a little more complicated and that is where most guys fail but if you get your training and diet right the above combos would see you right.

after you no longer get resuts from this then blitz cycle work well.

An example would be

Diet down for 3 weeks no and clean out no drugs then run in other words prime your body ready for the blitz

Sus 250 @ 1-2ml per day for 20days

take 30 day break

then run a 6 week cycle at mod doses to solidify the gain example

500mg test per week with 600mg EQ

Then run a pct for 30days with 4 weeks clean or just cruise on 1ml of test a week until your ready to cycle again

then just blitz again

Originally Posted by Diary of a beast

Great post! I'm very interested in your cycles especially ones during prep/closer to a show

Ok
This is one cycle I did way back in 1995 it was one of my last before starting to add test in my cycles.

You must take into account that back then vet gear was used in OZ a lot then if you had no doc will to write you a script. I never found one until 1997.

I used Tribolin 75mg/ml with EQ 50gm/ml

8 week cycle 4ml of each a week

would start @ 78kg and by the end be up a solid 7kg

My first real test cycle was this

week 1 - 5
4ml tribolin 75
week 6-9
testo LA vet drug 100mg/ml cypinate 2.5ml per week

I ran 50mg of anapolan ed from weeks 1-6

now I was a solid 92kg and this is when I started doing mens shows would take me up until 2002 before I challenged for national titles.

But like I said knowing what I know now I would run test a lot longer and make it my base all the way through but I still believe if uner the age of 30 just stick with anabolic's and save the test once you have peaked.

I also remember reading some where that European bb were big on this only take like 600mg deca per week some of the old time guys swore by the old dbol and deca cycle I think flex wheeler did this.

I have also kept a collection of all the types of gear over the past 20 years got a lot of empty vet vials. I you guys would like to see it I could up load the pic and show you what was around back 20 years ago. I mean Boldenone @ 50mg/ml imagine running 1000mg of that a week for 15weeks lol

So you can now see why we only would take 4-6ml of it a week for a total of 200-300mg per week because it was a pain in the arse so to speak but that said we still made good gains at those doses. I mean I remember a guy from Germany was on vacation and asked me for some gear I sold him some Dynobol 50 which was a vet drug basically deca and at 4ml per week for a total of 200mg he was very happy with it. One day he pulled the vial out of his gym bag and was going to take a shot right there and then and I had to tell him what I gave him was illegal in Australia and he cant't be doing it the gym we all laugh about it later funny as fuck. I guess back in his home land it was normal to do that.

Thanks for the Info!