Originally Posted by ironmaster
Yes. 25mcg is kinda natural for my liking. I've studied that it is a replacement dose. So benefits come in at 50mcg for what you want.
Yes. 25mcg is kinda natural for my liking. I've studied that it is a replacement dose. So benefits come in at 50mcg for what you want.
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I know people will say no... don't use it, lose the fat through diet and cardio first blah blah. I did it. Of course it will be more difficult to cope, but it's sure going to get results. My theory is that if something takes a long time to achieve results... say you are trying to go from 25% to 15% before you start your hormones... as you get closer to that target, your general motivation levels and interests levels fade away, because the results are not obvious or "instant" enough for you to keep caring. You don't feel the urge to achieve that goal. A little cheat here and there... and your progress stalls and you lose more motivation and you end up in a situation where you didn't even start your hormones and moved onto something else like beer.
I would honestly do low dose test + high tren. I've seen transformations in front of my eyes with guys doing virtually no cardio and losing slabs of fat on a weekly basis. But of course they had high muscle mass and metabolic rate etc.
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25mcg AFAIK is on the high end of natural thyroid output. 25mcg is still a good dose when you are dieting because don't forget when you're dieting your body will slow down your metabolism (thyroid) to try preserve body mass. 50mcg though will obviously help him lean down quicker but will also cause him to be more hungry as long as he can handle it.
If you are going to be leaning down for a long time pick tren e so you don't have to jab yourself ED/EOD, take it nice and cruisy and tren is very potent don't forget, you don't want to run high doses and burn yourself out because you will already be lethargic from reduced calories.
I have an upcoming cut and I will only be using very modest doses such as 200 test e, 200 mast e, 400 tren e and 100 var ed.
thanks for all the ideas and thoughts guys. Like I have said this is how we all learn and from that we are armed with more knowledge to help us find the problem to our solutions.
Got some oil heading my way soon so this is what I have come up with thoughts
mod dose of EQ with tren a mast a
I was thinking the EQ could run in the back ground and slowly bring quality to my muscles as the muscle mass comes back the tren a will help burn some fat and get the body primed for a more anabolic reaction and the mast can act as a replacement for the test as mast being a good androgen without any estrogen build up to combat.
in other words a cycle like this would appear very anabolic low estrogenic with androgenic support. I could also later add to this cycle some tbol/var tabs from mts to help enhance the effect. I just feel test when bf is an issue just makes me feel bloated and that bloated look is very motivating from a visual aspect.
BTW I do have 10ml of ugl tren e 200mg/ml that I though I might use with the EQ and when that is all gone switch over to tren a /mast a mix
I will still use hgh and clen and like Mr Big said I will add t3 @ 50mcg to the mix
Made an error always thought mast was the same as proviron but not so. mast is more anabolic and proviron a pure androgen. the only thing in commom is they are both DHT that said I still think the combo I have listed will work.
I have never used mast would like to here guys who have ran it what they think about the compound.
Well a week with no test but I feel no issues. I have my diet/training set for more fat loss and this week felt much better bloat has gone and can feel like I am doing better. this is my diet I will list it as 5 meals aday
1. Protein drink
Scoop of wpi flax oil scoop of frozen yoghurt 10 egg white
Or
3 egg omelet with 100g of turkey
2. 50g of cheese
3. Chicken /salad
4. 30g of nuts
5. Fish or beef with vegies
On Wednesday – Saturday –Sunday meal 5 is a carb load meal of about 150g of carbs
One of these carb load meals will be a cheat meal when I will eat what I want at this meal anything goes for I hour. But again I only do it on one given day of my load meal on the above set days.
Training I am doing whole body training mon-wed-fri I alternate between a circuit type day and a strength day cadio is tue-thur-sat 30mins on each day at a steady state
will do this program until I hit 15%bf and my oils should arrive within the next week so not long before I add some support to this program.
still on the hgh @ 2iued going into my third week. All I can say at this stage is my sleep is getting better and have notice my hands feel a little funny not puffy they just feel a little tight.
Just a quick up date.
been on the following eating plan 10 days and working really well body is working much better and bodyfat is being used a lot better.
starting at 96.6kg aprox 25%bf weight is now down to 94.7kg will be adding back super supps soon.
ironmaster.
TrueLike I have said this is how we all learn and from that we are armed with more knowledge to help us find the problem to our solutions.
Well done hope it all goes according to plan!
Thanks mate!
Yeah I am serious as a heart attach when I say this is my comeback. As you guys have seen a couple of pics from my past shows. I still have more in me a know I can still be better. I stop competing in 2006 but never stopped training. More things in life took priority from 2007-2012 like starting a family and changing my career options for the better. I also suffered and couple of injuries 2007 and 2012 plus back issues for almost 2 years.
Good thing is I now am more balanced in my life and I look at it this way. I built a great physic that was a national standard just on shear grit. But now with everything in my life now being the best it ever has then I know I can reach greater heights with my physic.
they do say life beings 40
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