Yeah just anavar with basic supplements creatine high protein diet ... I did think about test but my goal is different then others just like a lot of people say an anavar alone cycle isn't good or what not but again everyone has different goals i don't want to get a lot of size just some cuts and lean a little so with my diet my cardio and anavar and a few supplements am sure I can achieve my goal of not then it's back to the lab and search other methods