Quote Originally Posted by MR BIG View Post
I unsuccessfully came off.

I did 2 PCTs with pharmacy purchased CLOMID, HCG, NOLVADEX. Used big doses, did it all...

Lost my size, started getting depressed and................. went back on gear as soon as I knew I failed to recover again.

What the endo told me was to start your PCT when you are on very low doses.

If you are trying to get off and recover, var and primo are not to be used.

I read that a way to bridge but I don't know since I've never done a PCT successfully - use insulin and HGH. Maybe others have done it.
yea HCG is taken jst when the roids start to leave the system..towards the end of the cycle.I hit it 2-3 days after last shot.Doing fine recovering really well.