350 test enth 800 deca/w

I cannot be bothered to split the dosages, I think the adex will work okay using this protocol
I am pinning ED and the last thing I want to be doing is pinning even more frequently lol

Ah OK. I thought you meant you pin all your test for the week in one go.

Oh no, I am pinning my tren ace all in one go!
I am using the testosterone as 300 mg every 6 days

Powertard wrote:Update
Lowered my deca dosage down to 600 mg/w yesterday
Been off AI completely until 2 days ago when I injected the 300 mg test enth and took 1 mg adex with it simply because I was having many high E2 symptoms including my penis not working or having any real sex drive
Woke up today extremely horny sex drive through the roof

I will try 1 mg adex 1 x a week when I pin the test

Good to hear sex drive is high. Do you think adex just once a week will be alright? As it is not a suicide AI?

Hi
I didn't see this
I don't think it is a good idea, I'd ALWAYS use aromasin
A few days after taking the 1 mg adex, my estrogen rebounded hard and I was bloated as bell, face like full on moon face and itchy nips

Update!

Decently leaner despite only in a 300 deficit-maint calories and I have certainly built noticeable mass

MUCH stronger, only been bench pressing for 5 weeks due to rotator cuff injuries and my predicted max is 142.5 Kg @ 95 Kg bloated to hell. Yes, I realize this is a tiny bench press for a powerlifter especially a PLer in anabolics but this is 5 weeks from untrained while limiting my progress severely while I rehab my shoulder as I have scapula dyskenesia and some nerve issues. Untrained bench was 105 Kg so I have put nearly 40 Kg on my bench in just shy of 5 weeks on a cut only being able to work in the 12-15 rep range twice a week while not being able to overhead press yet... and I could have advanced faster but I have limited it a bit to not get hurt again! Once my scapula dyskenesia is fixed and the impingement gone a 200 Kg+ pause bench at 90 kg will happen within a few months!

Sex drive is through the roof , jacking off 4-7x a day... lol

Sleep was fine and wonderful until about 5 days ago where the trensomnia has started to kick in

Had tren cough twice and it was horrible

Update again

Bench press predicted max is 150 Kg now, still holding myself back a lot due to the injury, still adding 5 Kg to my bench per week despite limiting myself and spending most my gym time rehabbing the scapular issues

Sleep is really good again, I figured out I wasn't drinking enough water, I now drink around 2 L of water in the 2 hrs or so leading up to sleep and I now sleep like a log
I was doing this before as I was drinking around 2 L of skim milk the 3-4 hrs before bed but I stopped it and changed it to ground beef
Now eating ground beef + the water and sleep is amazing once again

Put some apple cidar vinegar in the water you consume around the beef. It'll help it digest much better. I always feel like I have a chunk of lead in my stomach when I consume a bunch of beef but the ACV really helped with that.

That's really interesting and helpful, thankyou!

Also does wonders for acne on the skin too. I know taiean has posted it on gh15. Just a little bit goes a long way

I'll certainly give this a go

How is everyone on GH15? I miss them all

We're doing alright. I haven't been as active just due to life. Lots of reading of deca and npp threads as I plan to use it through the fall and winter to really put on size without having too many side effects (tren is making me super pissy on this cut lol).

Good to know
For size I'd recommend lower testosterone enth than deca and dbol adrol combo with sufficient AI so you don't get your conditioning fucked up with water retention. Perhaps a little masteron enth or even low dose tren enth.

My friend who is 6 ft 2 200 lbs 10% bf (yes, he isn't that big yet)will be starting a 26 week bulk blast. It will be something like 300 mg/w test enth, 600-800 mg/w nandrolone deconate and 150-200 mg/w tren enth/w with 3 on 3 off orals which will be 30-50 mg/d dianabol and 50-150 mg/d anadrol. AI will be 25 mg aromasin a day. Calories at 300-500 surplus.

I was thinking something similar. 600 deca, 300 test, 400 mast, drol 4 weeks on then tren+tne during the four weeks off. Good strength, size, dryness, and conditioning.

Seems interesting!

Honestly I'd keep the tren out of it or at a verryyy low dosage when bulking because it ruins your thickness. Add enough just to keep conditioning, strength boost and to keep leaner. I remember there is that thread on GH15 made by someone I THINK called Dr X or something similar where he gives very solid advice for successful bulking where he states the four workhorses for bulking are Test Deca Anadrol and Dianabol. He also said low dosages of masteron can be used to get a bit drier but that is it.

Although my scale weight has gone up as well as I am stronger and carrying more LBM for sure and have got leaner, I look "smaller" since adding in the tren. Like harder and denser but that thickness and sheer size has diminished. Although I don't care about it as I am a PLer I'd imagine as a BBer bulking it would be crappy!

You are right drx talks of the four horseman. The tren I was thinking woukd be low dose just to keep training intensity high. Essentially a strong non methylated compounds so around 50/day though I agree. Tren so far I've lost some thickness but added that nice dense mature look. Things aren't as round and full but more sharp and hard. Maybe just tne cycle with drol so I get max growth, don't end up a pin cushion, and keep full. How you liking deca at that dose?

Sounds like a good plan

Yeah the deca at 800 was fantastic, sooooo full and thick it was wonderful and on the AI with the lower test dosage I was dry looking, too!. I lowered it down to 600 due to money and also I wanted to come off the AI because I can only get adex right now and I just don't get along with it so the past 2 weeks I have been bloated to hell and distended holding a lot of water then my nips starting itching a bit so I had to get back on the adex a bit until I can get hold of some Aromasin. Add some aromasin in and it would be absolutely perfect!!

Lost a bit of thickness and size from going to 800-->600 but I couldn't handle 800 with no AI

I just fucked up.

Went to inject 600 mg (2 ml) MTS deca into my glute with a 21 g pin, I didn't aspirate because I was in a rush cooking and pinned. I took the pin out and my ass just started hemorrhaging blood like really flowing out. "Fuck." I thought then right after I started getting short of breath then I went light headed and I sat on the floor coughing and wheezing then I lay down on the floor coughing gasping for air with my vision going black hardly able to breathe. I had this sweet taste in my mouth.

It got better after about 3 mins but even now (20 mins later) I cannot take a full breath in without coughing.

why do you use a 21g pin

Powertard wrote:I just fucked up.

Went to inject 600 mg (2 ml) MTS deca into my glute with a 21 g pin, I didn't aspirate because I was in a rush cooking and pinned. I took the pin out and my ass just started hemorrhaging blood like really flowing out. "Fuck." I thought then right after I started getting short of breath then I went light headed and I sat on the floor coughing and wheezing then I lay down on the floor coughing gasping for air with my vision going black hardly able to breathe. I had this sweet taste in my mouth.

It got better after about 3 mins but even now (20 mins later) I cannot take a full breath in without coughing.

glad you're ok mate, that's scary. what part of the glute? I've always read that done correctly the probability of hitting a blood line is very low.