Insulin Novolin R pre workout

33 posts · started by ns9797 · Dec 26, 2017

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ns9797 wrote:So if gh lowers blood sugar why add insulin? And I know to not take insulin without gh necuse you will get fat but should people with gh deficiency take insulin to help with the anabolic effect or will they just get fat since their deficienc already? I’m just seeing if Insulin is for me since I’m not the average gh user that has a normal gh levels compared to others that do and are taking gh with insulin


2 reasons

1: hgh releases igf-1 in the liver and 2-3IU of insulin prolongs this igf-1 release
2: if hgh dosages get above 6IU (pharm grade, not generics) then insulin sensitivity is decreasing and adding insulin actually helps for this, and ofcourse to build more muscle
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Hey im using slin with hgh. Do you guys take insulin for a longer time or in a 6 weeks on/2 weeks off cycle?
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Mw3best wrote:Hey im using slin with hgh. Do you guys take insulin for a longer time or in a 6 weeks on/2 weeks off cycle?


you can take it longer and then cycle off, say 10 weeks on and 2 weeks off
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Okey so after 3 months i must go off for 2 weeks?
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Mw3best wrote:Okey so after 3 months i must go off for 2 weeks?


insulin cycling is very important. research it more and find a good routine for how many weeks off and on. you have to remain insulin sensitive, its a very important issue
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Do you mean 3 Months ed? Or do you Go 3days on 2 days off for 3 Months ? I do it like this with Great Results for 6-8 weeks And same Time off completele .
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Thorodin wrote:Do you mean 3 Months ed? Or do you Go 3days on 2 days off for 3 Months ? I do it like this with Great Results for 6-8 weeks And same Time off completele .


how much and how often is very individual. bigger guys who want to grow further need more and if you are 160pounds then ofcourse you need much less. there is no golden rule here as each body is different and how it reacts. thats why insulin is an advanced compound, because it requires total knowledge of ones own body and lifestyle which is no easy feat
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And for someone that’s young and deficient in gh and taking 6iu or more for long periods of time basically never coming off, still add insulin? Compared to someone that produces enough gh naturally and is taking gh say 6iu, more or less and adding insulin. Basically saying is insulin nessacry in deficient GH users that are taking 6iu or more? or no because they produce less?
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ns9797 wrote:And for someone that’s young and deficient in gh and taking 6iu or more for long periods of time basically never coming off, still add insulin? Compared to someone that produces enough gh naturally and is taking gh say 6iu, more or less and adding insulin. Basically saying is insulin nessacry in deficient GH users that are taking 6iu or more? or no because they produce less?


i never dealt with anybody who is deficient in hgh, so this is a good question for a qualified doctor
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Yeah that’s going to be a hard one ask a doctor because of the insulin issue. It’s going to be a needle in a hay stack. It’s really just going to be a trial and error trying my self. I know that taking gh above 6iu can cause insulin resistance for a normal person. What are other signs for a normal peroson taking high gh with out Insulin have side effect wise?
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ns9797 wrote:Yeah that’s going to be a hard one ask a doctor because of the insulin issue. It’s going to be a needle in a hay stack. It’s really just going to be a trial and error trying my self. I know that taking gh above 6iu can cause insulin resistance for a normal person. What are other signs for a normal peroson taking high gh with out Insulin have side effect wise?


losing insulin sensitivity would be the main one, also not being able to put more mass on as the hgh above 6iu is burning so much fat and food you can move forward in weight, also lowering of the t3 happens so you need to supplement with t4
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So basically the insulin is like a caloric boost to help catch up with the metabolism which that’s what I thought. Which when adding insulin you need to be more cautious on what types of food you eat, right? But if taking gh without insulin and with anabolics you need to be a little more dirty right? Because it kind of makes you a hard gainer. For example Im an easy gainer but lately My weight keeps dropping even without out my cardio. Yeah I haven’t had an appetite so I’ve been downing lots of caloric dense foods peanut butter and such to help the calories. And Even so my stomach has been distended but when I wake up the stomach gone. And I have been having this without the insulin. So I know it’s the food and I don’t add excess sodium. So overall I think the gh is working well for me even being deficient. And just need to experiment with the insulin more, I know it makes me tired more and feel drained which interferes with my workouts.
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insulin is a nutrient shuttle. if you use too much of it or eat fats with it you will get fat from insulin.

if taking hgh and aas then yes you can be bit more dirty with the calories
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