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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaster View Post
    Front load done 20/07/2015

    Day 1 (Monday)

    front load Tren E (Max Pro) 400mg
    front load EQ (MTS) 1000mg
    sus 250 (British Knight)250mg

    I will increase cardio to 5 days a week for 30mins now that I have gear in me wont be as catabolic doing max cardio.
    My training is still 3 days per week but now doing a split rountie

    Chest Delts Arms

    Back legs

    Let the fun being
    Few years back a guy in my gym sold me MAX-PRO TREN something... perfect packaging. said it was made in germany blah blah.... or whatever it said.... and then I did a labmax test and boom.... had NO steroid in it at all. nada. Just brown peanut oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR BIG View Post
    Few years back a guy in my gym sold me MAX-PRO TREN something... perfect packaging. said it was made in germany blah blah.... or whatever it said.... and then I did a labmax test and boom.... had NO steroid in it at all. nada. Just brown peanut oil.
    Yes I have heard bad reviews on MAX-PRO also. But I can trace mine back to the O/Seas lab it came from so all good. I have had it for about 2 years so I just want to use it to get it used. Plus I knew a mate of mine that used it and his results solid on this product.

    trust me I will know if it is real soon enough being tren e should hit its straps around 10days or so. Good thing is I have MT 200 on stand by if need to replace it. The plan is to uses the tren e up over next 6 weeks then go to MT 200 after that. Once the transition has been made I will be running MTS product exclusively.

    But once again I hear what you are saying a lot if not all MAX-PRO at Least here in OZ would be fake. There is a local site here promoting MAX-PRO and they send it via domestic post so no going through customs. They are way over priced seems to me they just more interested in taking peoples money.

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    well done mate nothing can hold you back for 2016!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diary of a beast View Post
    well done mate nothing can hold you back for 2016!
    Thanks mate!

    how is your training tracking along?

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    well had enough of low carb and now time to slowly reintroduce them back into diet. plus the cycle is now picking up pace so the aim now is to slowly bring food back up while leaning out. in other words loose fat gain muscle. Low carb phase has worked and it has rest my body. ie has become less insulin resistant. so the diet at this stage now is as follows

    meal 1 (supps 4 fish oil- 5g glutamine- vit c- multi)
    50g oats
    banana
    7 whites 1 egg made as pancakes with a little honey

    meal 2
    Met-Rx MRP

    meal 3 (supps 4 fish oil- vit e- vit c)
    150g cooked chicken tenders
    1 cup cooked rice(white)

    meal 4
    1 scoop WPI in water
    30g nuts

    meal 5 (supps 4 fish oil- magnesium/vitD)
    200g of fatty meat eg beef salmon pork
    large serve of veg no starch

    meal 6 (supps 5g glutamine ZMA)
    1 scoop WPI in water
    20ml flax oil

    above is roughly
    cals 2000
    pro 200g
    carbs 150g
    fats 60g

    training is between meals 2/3
    pre training
    1 scoop extend and then 1 scoop mixed in training water and drunk during training

    I will follow this plan for a solid month and re-feed as I feel by add 150g of extra crabs to this meal plan. At this stage thinking of doing the re-feeds every other training day. On the re-feed I will have the bulk of the carbs in the post workout meals say meal 3 to 6

    All in all I have my head around it and enjoying the return to becoming a competitive bb again.

    ironmaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaster View Post
    well had enough of low carb and now time to slowly reintroduce them back into diet. plus the cycle is now picking up pace so the aim now is to slowly bring food back up while leaning out. in other words loose fat gain muscle. Low carb phase has worked and it has rest my body. ie has become less insulin resistant. so the diet at this stage now is as follows

    meal 1 (supps 4 fish oil- 5g glutamine- vit c- multi)
    50g oats
    banana
    7 whites 1 egg made as pancakes with a little honey

    meal 2
    Met-Rx MRP

    meal 3 (supps 4 fish oil- vit e- vit c)
    150g cooked chicken tenders
    1 cup cooked rice(white)

    meal 4
    1 scoop WPI in water
    30g nuts

    meal 5 (supps 4 fish oil- magnesium/vitD)
    200g of fatty meat eg beef salmon pork
    large serve of veg no starch

    meal 6 (supps 5g glutamine ZMA)
    1 scoop WPI in water
    20ml flax oil

    above is roughly
    cals 2000
    pro 200g
    carbs 150g
    fats 60g

    training is between meals 2/3
    pre training
    1 scoop extend and then 1 scoop mixed in training water and drunk during training

    I will follow this plan for a solid month and re-feed as I feel by add 150g of extra crabs to this meal plan. At this stage thinking of doing the re-feeds every other training day. On the re-feed I will have the bulk of the carbs in the post workout meals say meal 3 to 6

    All in all I have my head around it and enjoying the return to becoming a competitive bb again.

    ironmaster
    That's a lot of fish oil, are you counting it in your macros?

    Also I noticed you are using a lot of supplements in place of whole food, supplements are not good for your body at all never mind being inferior to whole foods. You should always target whole foods and leave supplements only for circumstances where you can't have wholefoods for whatever reason.

    How much weight have you cut so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brimmy View Post
    That's a lot of fish oil, are you counting it in your macros?

    Also I noticed you are using a lot of supplements in place of whole food, supplements are not good for your body at all never mind being inferior to whole foods. You should always target whole foods and leave supplements only for circumstances where you can't have wholefoods for whatever reason.

    How much weight have you cut so far?
    12g of fish oil is not a lot. calorie was maybe about 120cal in total so not a real issue. plus most guys do not get the most out of this supplement because they dose too low. 6-12 1000mg tabs per day is what I find is best.

    I agree on whole food being better but the lod standard of 3 meals and 3 shakes is a good point to start. When I start to feel more hungrier I will replace with food.

    lost around 3kg so heading in right direction.

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    So far so Good thanks

    bw is at the 90 kg mark at the moment

    noticed my muscles getting thicker and more dense

    still fairly lean after ramping up my carbs and overall food

    eating quality nutritious meals at the moment so I don't have to rely on bird seed when it's time to drop down for comp

    I added a few pictures to my first thread in the newbie forum when you have a minute take a look comment, abuse it doesn't matter :P

    I have a planned holiday soon so just sticking to what I'm on now gear wise and when I get back it will be time add another compound to the mix. tempted by tren but wary of the side due to me working the corporate world and having to deal with corporate idiots with huge guts haha

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    Post progress pics if you have. Thanks.

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    Ok guys.
    This is not the best pic just taken with my mobile phone. trust me I look better in real life. does not help I am fair skin to begin with and the shot from mobile will wash most of the physic out. But what the pic does show is you can see how thick the muscle is and the bulk of the muscle.
    I plan to by a new camera next month as my old one has for some reason not working.

    Like I said plan is to now take test 400 2ml/wk EQ 500 1ml/wk along with low dose of hgh 2iu/ed for general health and help support cycle.

    My diet has not been that get as I think the Tren e has effected my appetite so I am hoping dropping it will make me feel better.

    Work has been busy and long as I work 12hr shifts we do around 2/3 days on with 2/3 days off plus got a young family now that takes a lot of my free time.

    So the best plan i have come up with is to only train on my off days and do cardio on my work days.

    i just find training on work days is too much and really non productitve training before work is dangerous as getting out of bed and training at 5am no food in my gut plus rushing the workout so i can get out the door for work by 615am just not going to be worth it.
    After a long 12 hour shift i just find it real hard to go hard in the gym after that i mean all i want to do after a shift is come home greet the family have a good meal rest a bit then hit the sack. So training is best left for off shifts. Cardio on the other hand is no dramas to do 30-40mins before work. So that is the plan for the next 6 weeks.

    Diet wise was thinking lower carb diet on work days and bring the carbs up on training days.

    Like to here what you guys think?

    BTW will post some better pic is 4/6 weeks.

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