Dbol kickstart while test e and deca build up, still worth doing or outdated advice?
3 posts · started by FLbodybuilder · Jul 23, 2025
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FLbodybuilder
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Jul 23, 2025 at 6:00 PM
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Dbol kickstart is still the move if you are starting test e and deca for an off-season mass run. Yes Tbol is cleaner and I recommend it to plenty of guys here, but if you want the scale moving fast while the long esters build up, 40mg dbol for four weeks is the answer. Liver support, TUDCA 500mg plus NAC the whole time. Water comes off after you stop. The strength carries over. Been doing this for 25 years and the kickstart debate gets re-run every year with the same conclusion.
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Davo
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Jul 24, 2025 at 6:00 PM
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Tbol at 60mg is the cleaner version of this kickstart and I have used it more often in recent years. But Dbol works, no question. The water comes off, the strength stays. If you are running a proper off-season mass phase the choice between the two comes down to whether you want dry or wet gains in those first four weeks.
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TEXMEX
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Jul 25, 2025 at 6:00 PM
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Agree with the kickstart logic. Tbol is the cleaner option and I have switched to it in recent years but Dbol at 40mg does exactly what it is supposed to while the long esters build. The debate comes up every year and ends the same way.