Bloodwork reference ranges on cycle - what do your numbers actually tell you and what do they not tell you?
3 posts · started by FrankfurtFit · Jun 28, 2024
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FrankfurtFit
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Jun 28, 2024 at 12:00 AM
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After 20 years of running cycles and reviewing bloodwork I want to address the reference range problem. Lab reference ranges are built for untreated populations. An ALT of 55 on cycle is flagged abnormal by the lab but is essentially meaningless in context. An E2 of 48 looks high on paper but may be exactly where you want to be on 750mg test. The numbers require interpretation in context. What matters: trends over time, not single readings. Sensitive estradiol not standard immunoassay. Platelet and clotting factors alongside hematocrit. LH and FSH alongside total test. Context and comparison points matter more than whether the lab flags a value.
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Davo
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Jul 8, 2024 at 12:00 AM
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This is important and not said enough. The lab flags a value as abnormal using population reference ranges that have nothing to do with a 100kg man on 750mg test. ALT of 60 on cycle with TUDCA running is not a problem. E2 of 45 at 500mg test might be exactly where you want to be. Context is everything. The thing I would add - always use the same lab for your tracking. Switching labs mid-cycle means the reference ranges and assay methods change, which makes trending impossible. Pick one, stick with it.
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BERLINER
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Jul 9, 2024 at 12:00 AM
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The same-lab consistency point is critical. I have been using the same private lab for 4 years. The assay methods are constant, the reference ranges do not change between draws, and trending over time produces reliable data. Switching labs mid-cycle introduces methodology variables that make comparison invalid. Additionally - the sensitive estradiol LC/MS assay versus standard immunoassay is not a minor distinction. The immunoassay gives artificially elevated E2 readings in men on cycle. Always specify LC/MS.