Baby dosages... do you take small doages and think why you dont make gains?

I got an email from a customer. He said he didn't see the gains come yet, early days but should have expected something he said.

I won't name who the fella was, as its not relevant. but I want to discuss this point.

TBol (100mg per day)

Taking on average 5.25 ml per week :

Test400 = 0.8 = 320
Mast = 1.75 = 175
Tren = 2.6 = 260

EOD Test400 0.25, Mast 0.5, Tren 0.75



These are my thoughts and correct me if I'm wrong people.

The test 400 has a combination of esters, have to multiply the ester amount by 0.8

TEST ACE 25mg,
TEST PROP 40mg,
TEST PHENYLPROP 60mg,
TEST ISO 75mg,
TEST DEC 100mg,
TEST ENAN 100mg.

So EOD @ 0.25ml

TEST-ACE = 6.25mg
TEST-PROP = 10mg
.....

very low dosage

I don't know about you, but taking 175mg masteron... does anyone even notice anything?


My answer to why the customer has made no strength improvements....

1) Too low dosages by compound
2) Not patient enough
4) You will hardly make any "gains" in 1-2 weeks


what's your thoughts?

I went from crusing on low test+ 350mg npp to low test 55mg of MTS tbol ed last week. Strength is the same but that 55mg of tbol is giving me better fullness than the npp on a low carb diet. I think his bf is to high for him to notice the small changes that prob already happend

Depending how big the guy is, he should notice something from the orals. I make progress on lower doses over longer durations. I'm also a lot more comfortable and quality of life is better. I'm a little guy though at around 5' 6" so my doses scale to my size.

Ok me and MR big are very different when it comes to what we think 'baby doses' are!!. Simply answer to your question should he see gains,of course he fucking should!!
I'm not going into details but am I right by reading your saying 5.25ml isn't much!!
I blast on 2ml a week(yes you read it correct) and max 50mg of any oral and I'm currently 105 kg with single digit bf!!

Like you said the guy must be impatient,but if he's been on longer than two weeks and he's not noticing anything then I would give up if I was him!!
There are a lot of factors which are involved but all based on around the lifestyle you lead.

BIGDADDY wrote:Ok me and MR big are very different when it comes to what we think 'baby doses' are!!. Simply answer to your question should he see gains,of course he fucking should!!
I'm not going into details but am I right by reading your saying 5.25ml isn't much!!
I blast on 2ml a week(yes you read it correct) and max 50mg of any oral and I'm currently 105 kg with single digit bf!!

Like you said the guy must be impatient,but if he's been on longer than two weeks and he's not noticing anything then I would give up if I was him!!
There are a lot of factors which are involved but all based on around the lifestyle you lead.

ha... i'm pinning 3ml per day... i'm 125kg at single bf too. but definately... patience is the issue here. 2 weeks mate.. he said the gains should have started with the tbol. myself... I take dbol and I look fuller in only 2 days @ 30mg. I'm told the person is 12%.

I wouldn't go as far as giving up... but many things to look at... training, diet, sleep, fat...

yeah... bigdaddy and myself are complete opposites. i cannot push past 115kg without some serious dosage in me. that's me.

Im planning long term use for forseeable future of 400 test e/w 400 tren e/w 400 deca/w 50-100 tne pre train 30 dbol 4 on 2 off letro as ai

Want to stay on that and stay 12% or lower for about 9 mos

Fucking hell 3ml a day??? you must be a big guy, what do you cruise on??

Im only 11.6 stone (73kg), 21 yo and 2ml a week was my last blast ( 800mg of test400 and 400mg of eq) and i gained around 3kg of solid muscle over a period of 3-4 months.... But thats a baby dose compared to others right??

Planning on upping the eq too 650mg or 900mg in my next blast... Trying to get to around the 12 stone mark by end of summer next year!

MR BIG wrote:ha... i'm pinning 3ml per day... i'm 125kg at single bf too. but definately... patience is the issue here. 2 weeks mate.. he said the gains should have started with the tbol. myself... I take dbol and I look fuller in only 2 days @ 30mg. I'm told the person is 12%.

I wouldn't go as far as giving up... but many things to look at... training, diet, sleep, fat...

yeah... bigdaddy and myself are complete opposites. i cannot push past 115kg without some serious dosage in me. that's me.

Yeah main difference is I'm 5ft 10inch he's 6ft 10inches!!

BIGDADDY wrote:Yeah main difference is I'm 5ft 10inch he's 6ft 10inches!!

MR BIG is 6ft10 125kg? Christ he must be a monster! Any physique pics?

BBJMD wrote:MR BIG is 6ft10 125kg? Christ he must be a monster! Any physique pics?

NOT that tall. Maybe a little shorter than Ferrigno.

Well after taking the advice onboard and increasing my dosages I'm now seeing/feeling big changes, arms are very vascular and down to 10% bf, I'd get more gains if my sleeping improved! Loving this cycle, impressed with MTS and wouldn't go anywhere else now to buy.